Silver gilt cloisonné and en plein enamel box?

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Re: Silver gilt cloisonné and en plein enamel box?

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Hi Zolotnik,

Your reaction is odd unless you have a double. You have been involved in the game from start till end and I quote:

Hi ElicottCity -
the other shown marks are Soviet marks from the years 1927-1946 for Moscow. Turn them 180 degrees and you can read them The silver content is 875/1000. the same as 84 Zolotniki.
Someone let his object rehallmarking with the at that time current marks - in wide use in that years, to show that you are willing to"legalize" your ""bourgeois/dekadent" property.


Hi -
there is one little exeption, which have nothing to do with fakes - in my collection I have several exemplares (cigarette cases) where the donation textes, names of female friends (lovers?),
lewd applikations etc., have been removed or sanded at a later time for personal reasons -but the nice object was preserved.

Regards
Zolotnik


Your comment, we don't see enough Russian fakes does not cut wood, 75% of the Russian forum is all about fakes. We do browse the internet and find the same images you showed us today and most of us do on a regular base and recognize those fakes.
We do not claim to be experts we only make contributions. You are the self proclaimed Expert & Collector Chapeau! Today you proved wrong and I believe Dad explained better. I stick to my opinion based upon the (hall) marks with pseudo mark. A run of the mill, Russian low quality item. The Russian (hall) marks you showed us are totally off. Stop playing your egocentric nasty little games. Enjoy the forum!

Regards,

Oel.
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Re: Silver gilt cloisonné and en plein enamel box?

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Hi Oel -
Oel wrote: You are the self proclaimed Expert & Collector Chapeau!
we can easy change that - I quit - please delete my membership.

Regards
Zolotnik
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Re: Silver gilt cloisonné and en plein enamel box?

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Some pictures of the box after cleaning:
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Thanks to Dad for his great analysis. Admin edit off topic
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Re: Silver gilt cloisonné and en plein enamel box?

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Hi,


Good Pictures are Worth Thousand Words.

We started off with images of a clear Faberge mark and some blurred (hall) marks.
Thanks to the various contributions of our forum members; better clear images and added information, we have arrived at some conclusions.

Best,

Oel.
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