Unknown marks on beaker

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fenix123
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Unknown marks on beaker

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Hello,
Please help me to identify that Russian beaker (city, maker, approximate year).
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Qrt.S
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Re: Unknown marks on beaker

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The marks are badly damaged, but something can be read. It is Moscow approx 1870~1887. The maker's mark's last letter is B. The first can be e.g. A that would be Andrey Beckman 1860-1884, but as well anyone else...?????
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The maker's mark is А.В (dot must be higher) so it is most likely Vekman Andrey Vilhelm . He worked as a silversmith in Moscow from 1860 to 1884. ( The source - catalog Postnikova-Loseva 1995. - Mark number 2154). The city mark is George the Winner which indicates that it was verified and marked in Moscow (end of 19th century).
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@Valdemar
George the Winner!? The Moscow town mark is St. George slaying the Dragon. Anyway, of course Veckman...(those Cyrillic letters B=V, my mistake). However, the marks are so badly damaged that a 100% correct answer cannot be given, only an assumption.
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Qrt.S wrote:@Valdemar
George the Winner!? The Moscow town mark is St. George slaying the Dragon. Anyway, of course Veckman...(those Cyrillic letters B=V, my mistake). However, the marks are so badly damaged that a 100% correct answer cannot be given, only an assumption.
Yes, I mentioned George the Winner cause in Russia the widespreaded term for this herald Moscow city sign is George the Victory Bearer , or just the Winner ( Георгий Победоносец). My background is Russian and I lived there for many years. I omitted the the details of the mark just for being short. You are literally correct though regarding the title.
The probability of the maker is quite high in this situation cause the book also says that this maker issued beakers. One is known and it is in The State Historical Museum ( Москва, ГИМ) now.
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