Postnikov, you have no idea of who has experience or what kind of experience or how much. But what is known is that your experience regarding books seems to be limited. By a coincident I have two editions of Postnikova in front of me, one from 1983 the NAUKA edition and one from 1995 the UNVES edition. Kindly name one difference between those two books. Alternatively tell me what new or revised is in the UNVES 1995 edition?
To my understanding all newer editions are so called facsimile editions i.e. copies. I might be wrong and there might be revisions. It would be interesting to know what they are. I must admit that I have not made any particular comparisons, but I have on the other hand not found any revisions, so please tell me. Thank you in advance.
What I have done I have registered the inaccuracies and faults in Postnikova. To my attentions has come a bit less than 100 amendments or corrections but the same "faults" are similar in both editions.
С. П. ВУРГ mark on Spoon
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These sheepish discussions off topic lead nowhere! If you feel better: your da man! I know nothing...
There is still a problem pending - so use your exorbitant knowledge and explain to us nerds what is the matter with this spoons and this strange mark. At least try with own words...no more quotations and repititions. Only facts.
Regards
Postnikov
There is still a problem pending - so use your exorbitant knowledge and explain to us nerds what is the matter with this spoons and this strange mark. At least try with own words...no more quotations and repititions. Only facts.
Regards
Postnikov
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Very funny, hahaha. Mind my asking who vent off topic in the first place?
What I'm saying is that do not state in public "facts" you have picked from the sky and are unable to verify. All Postnikova editions are similar. I happen to know that.
What I'm saying is that do not state in public "facts" you have picked from the sky and are unable to verify. All Postnikova editions are similar. I happen to know that.
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Sorry forgot to mention that I have already stated that I don't know what is the actual problem with the mark on the spoon and neither do you Postnikov. But to declare it a fake just like that without being able to prove anything but just claim it is not a stylish or final solution. I consider it to be a pending case for the moment. It is not the one and only pending cases I have in my books
The inexperienced "bookworm"
The inexperienced "bookworm"
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Hello to all,
I do not know whether it helps in this discussion, but I succeeded to make a much better Photo of the Kokoshnik mark from the С.Р.ВУРГЪ spoon with maybe interesting details (instead of a lens I used an old Nikon 50 mm objective as loupe).
Kind regards,
Ringo
I do not know whether it helps in this discussion, but I succeeded to make a much better Photo of the Kokoshnik mark from the С.Р.ВУРГЪ spoon with maybe interesting details (instead of a lens I used an old Nikon 50 mm objective as loupe).
Kind regards,
Ringo
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Well Ringo, I must say that this is one of the best pictures of marks I have ever seen on theses sites, my congratulations. Nonetheless it does not change my opinion. I still cannot see anything that makes it a fake. However, could you measure the mark's length and height, thank you.
FYI
I'm also using an old Nikon 50 mm or a Canon 50 mm or 20 mm Macro when I'm taking pictures,
FYI
I'm also using an old Nikon 50 mm or a Canon 50 mm or 20 mm Macro when I'm taking pictures,
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Hi -
realy the best! What a punch! There are all atributes to make your bells ring ....
Regards
Postnikov
realy the best! What a punch! There are all atributes to make your bells ring ....
Regards
Postnikov
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Hello Qrt.S,
the messures are 5,5 mm x 2,8 mm on the outward border of the mark. On the bottom the mark is a little smaller.
Kind regards,
Ringo
the messures are 5,5 mm x 2,8 mm on the outward border of the mark. On the bottom the mark is a little smaller.
Kind regards,
Ringo
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To Ringo
OK, thanks, the measured values you give are bit big. You see the variation is between 5,2x2,5 and 3,0x1,5. However, parts of millimeter are rather difficult to see if not using a caliper, digital or mechanic. I cannot know how you have measured but the difference is not big.
To Postnikov,
OK, you are again using you red squares indicating that something is not in place. Unfortunately in this case it tells nothing unless you have something to compare with. You often ask to show this and show that. Now, I' kindly ask you to show in your opinion a real respective kokoshink comparable with the one Ringo has shown in order to see what differences or variations your red squares really show....or not.
OK, thanks, the measured values you give are bit big. You see the variation is between 5,2x2,5 and 3,0x1,5. However, parts of millimeter are rather difficult to see if not using a caliper, digital or mechanic. I cannot know how you have measured but the difference is not big.
To Postnikov,
OK, you are again using you red squares indicating that something is not in place. Unfortunately in this case it tells nothing unless you have something to compare with. You often ask to show this and show that. Now, I' kindly ask you to show in your opinion a real respective kokoshink comparable with the one Ringo has shown in order to see what differences or variations your red squares really show....or not.
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Hi, All.
"If you look the face of Angelina Jolie through a lens (20Ð¥), she will looks like the ugly creature with spots."
It's original mark.
"If you look the face of Angelina Jolie through a lens (20Ð¥), she will looks like the ugly creature with spots."
It's original mark.
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Thanks for the support Dad. That is what I have stated all the time.
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Hello Qrt.S,
indeet it is not easy to messure the mark. I used two different calipers (I know, it is not the perfect tool to messure such things). But both measures had the same admeasurements. And I compared the messure of the Kokoshnik mark from the С.Р.ВУРГЪ spoon with another Kokoshnik mark from Vilnius (I had no other mark to compare) and the ВУРГЪ Kokoshnik is indeet a litte bigger.
To show you this, I made a photo with the other Kokoshnik mark in relation. But I do not know, if there are differences in the dimensions of Kokoshnik marks from different towns.
But I think, it is understandable that the С.Р.ВУРГЪ-spoon-Kokoshnik mark is a little bigger. I wrote, that my messurements was taken on the top edge of the mark. And the mark is quite deep. On the bottom the mark is smaller, because the punching tool was cone-shaped. If the mark was not made so deep, it would be smaller.
Kind regards,
Ringo
indeet it is not easy to messure the mark. I used two different calipers (I know, it is not the perfect tool to messure such things). But both measures had the same admeasurements. And I compared the messure of the Kokoshnik mark from the С.Р.ВУРГЪ spoon with another Kokoshnik mark from Vilnius (I had no other mark to compare) and the ВУРГЪ Kokoshnik is indeet a litte bigger.
To show you this, I made a photo with the other Kokoshnik mark in relation. But I do not know, if there are differences in the dimensions of Kokoshnik marks from different towns.
But I think, it is understandable that the С.Р.ВУРГЪ-spoon-Kokoshnik mark is a little bigger. I wrote, that my messurements was taken on the top edge of the mark. And the mark is quite deep. On the bottom the mark is smaller, because the punching tool was cone-shaped. If the mark was not made so deep, it would be smaller.
Kind regards,
Ringo
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Hi -
here is another "correct" mark of ЕП involved!
Regards
Postnikov
here is another "correct" mark of ЕП involved!
Regards
Postnikov
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Sorry you lost me, what is the point with your last message Postnikov?