Hi
I have this very small simple spoon for a while now. It is from Dresden, made by I.E. Richter in 1854. Identified thanks to Theoderich's (Theo) great "Silberpunzen" page. Just 8-9 grams weight.
It bears a "Fürstenhut" (prince's hat). According German Wikipedia such a hat was used by non ruling princes. See here:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BCrstenhut
It also bears the name "Mathilde".
I wonder if anybody has an idea who could have been the owner of this spoon?
All guesses are welcome.
Thank you
Jörg
Dresden 1854 spoon with Fürstenhut, who was the owner?
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Re: Dresden 1854 spoon with Fürstenhut, who was the owner?
My guess is for Mathilde of Saxony, "Mathilde von Sachsen" (1863–1933) since Dresden is the capital of Saxony. I've noticed she is titled Prinzessin (non-ruling house), rather than Fürstin (ruling house). But I'm not sure if this spoon could be identified with absolute certainty.
Re: Dresden 1854 spoon with Fürstenhut, who was the owner?
Dear Nobilityhouse
Thank you for your thoughts. So you confirm it is a "Fürstenhut" for non ruling houses.
I was considering this very Mathilde of Saxony, too. But later ruled it out. Here my (unstructured) reasoning: The spoon was made in 1854. She was born in 1863. The spoon is light and simple, and I.E. Richter does not seem to have been purveyor to the court.
When would a princess get a set of flatware? At birth, or as part of a doll house - children tea set, or as part of her dowry or wedding present.
As small and insignificant the spoon is, I would interpret it as part of a play set or children tea set. I think to present a young Mathilde with a set in the early 1870ies, the presenter would not have used a nearly 20 year old set.
Currently I am looking for a Mathilde born between 1840 and 1850. Maybe a relative of the named Mathilde. However, I was not able to locate in the various branches of the Saxon family another Mathilde.
Thank you again
Jörg
Thank you for your thoughts. So you confirm it is a "Fürstenhut" for non ruling houses.
I was considering this very Mathilde of Saxony, too. But later ruled it out. Here my (unstructured) reasoning: The spoon was made in 1854. She was born in 1863. The spoon is light and simple, and I.E. Richter does not seem to have been purveyor to the court.
When would a princess get a set of flatware? At birth, or as part of a doll house - children tea set, or as part of her dowry or wedding present.
As small and insignificant the spoon is, I would interpret it as part of a play set or children tea set. I think to present a young Mathilde with a set in the early 1870ies, the presenter would not have used a nearly 20 year old set.
Currently I am looking for a Mathilde born between 1840 and 1850. Maybe a relative of the named Mathilde. However, I was not able to locate in the various branches of the Saxon family another Mathilde.
Thank you again
Jörg
Re: Dresden 1854 spoon with Fürstenhut, who was the owner?
Hi Jörg,
Would it so much of a surprise if someone, perhaps a family member who owned such a children's set, and has now grown-up, gifted the set to the young Mathilde after she had much admired it, after perhaps playing with during a visit, and as a special touch, had the girl's details engraved upon them? I could imagine just such a scenario.
Trev.
Would it so much of a surprise if someone, perhaps a family member who owned such a children's set, and has now grown-up, gifted the set to the young Mathilde after she had much admired it, after perhaps playing with during a visit, and as a special touch, had the girl's details engraved upon them? I could imagine just such a scenario.
Trev.
Re: Dresden 1854 spoon with Fürstenhut, who was the owner?
Hi Nobilityhouse and Trev
I spent time searching for additional Mathildes, without success. However, Trev, your reasoning makes sense. I think we can close the case and remain as nobilityhouse stated: this spoon cannot be identified with absolute certainty.
Regards
Jörg
I spent time searching for additional Mathildes, without success. However, Trev, your reasoning makes sense. I think we can close the case and remain as nobilityhouse stated: this spoon cannot be identified with absolute certainty.
Regards
Jörg