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Chinese export bowl?
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:36 pm
by Phate008
Re: Chinese export bowl?
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:43 pm
by Phate008
After doing a little research I now think this is Russian. I am going to have to search for the maker a little bit, but if a mod can move this to the correct forum that would be great. Thanks
Re: Chinese export bowl?
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:46 pm
by Phate008
Ivan Kapuskin? With the first letter being a cyrillic symbol
Re: Chinese export bowl?
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:25 pm
by AG2012
Hi,
There are 3 assayers in PL with initials ИК
No 3777 I.Krapavin in Kharkov 1849-1850
No 3132 unknown assayer in Novocherkassk around 1856
No 2114 unknown assayer in Moscow 1872-1881
The first two are too early and rather rare.
The Moscow assayer is the best candidate matching your mark.
The first letter in maker`s mark cannot be seen, could be A, Л or whatever. The second letter is either H (N)or K.
That`s all I can tell.
Regards
Re: Chinese export bowl?
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:51 am
by Qrt.S
It is a Russian salt cellar. Usually there should be a little spoon with it but it is as here missing. The cellar is assayed in Moscow 1879. The assayer is not unknown he is Ivan Yefimovich Konstantinov 1874-1883. The maker's mark is so badly punched that mentioning a name would be more a guess than a fact.
Re: Chinese export bowl?
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:39 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Thank you
Qrt.S for clarifying and amending PL.
In several Russian sources his years as Moscow assayer are different (1875-1882).No reference given,though.Possibly just repeated.
управляющий Московским пробирным округом в 1875-1882 Иван Ефимович Константинов
and again
Иван Ефимович Константинов (1875-1882)г
Also here:
https://www.925-1000.com/Frussia_assay_01.html
Regards
Re: Chinese export bowl?
Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:51 am
by Qrt.S
@AG2012
Well better to have something than nothing. Unfortunately there is nothing new in that different sources might give different answers.