Small mark on German box? Import mark?

[gsmoggy]

Hi Members
Unusual mark on lip of top of box,any ideas ? Sorry image not that clear. shape of punch mark may help?

Looks like letter A below (some animal ,Horse head ?) maybe an import mark,I feel box maybe a Hanau box,800 ,and rubbed mark on base.Also Large Figure, 1 (number).
Regards Guido.

[oel]

Hi, to me it appears to be the French weevil, import mark.
For more information see;
https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopi ... 106#p78106

Peter.

[gsmoggy]

Hi Peter
Many thanks ,I agree because of shape of punch,looks like it is that mark. If it is the letter A ? what assay office is that for? I saw a weevil mark with letter V. Have not found one with letter A.
Sorry again for bad image.
Regards Guido.

[oel]

The weevils in rectangle I have seen were without a regional assay office letter. Which probably means assay office Paris.
I have my doubts but if you clearly see the letter A. The regional assay office letter A was used by Trévoux, a commune in the Ain, department in eastern France.

Peter.

[gsmoggy]

Hello Peter
Many thanks for your quick reply and information.
I will let you know if I get the box,I will make some clearer images . Makes sense French import mark, scene on lid very French probably loosely based on paintings by Francios Boucher.

Again many thanks Guido.

[gsmoggy]

Hello again Peter

I did buy the box. You were correct re weevil mark. Letter is H not A as I first thought.

What assay office is H ?
Some clearer images of very small mark.
Many thanks
Regards Guido.

[oel]

Hi Guido,

Below another example, double weevil mark with a symbol ][, it looks like a H without the horizontal bar.

According Tardy International Hallmarks on Silver, page 201, this symbol ][ is for the regional assay office Strasburg.
The regional assay office letter H was used by Rodez, a small city and commune in the South of France, about 150 km northeast of Toulouse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodez
I go for RAO Strasburg, close to Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasbourg

Peter.

[gsmoggy]

Hi Peter
great work ,many thanks for all the great info.
So are we calling it a French or German made box? what period? I felt 1890-1900.Hanau.

You made be surprised as I am that I have found another mark under the same thumb section as the other mark(weevil )
This mark a lot clearer (great news)
It will be interesting what this mark means for me. Hopefully you know the mark.

Appreciate your help.

Regards Guido.

[gsmoggy]

Hi Peter
I forgot to say earlier Re H letter, I still think there is a join on the H letter.On my mark.

Regards Guido.

[oel]

If this mark opposite the weevil, it could be a counter or bigorne mark.
To me the box looks typical for Hanau (style), german made.

Peter

[gsmoggy]

Many thanks Peter.
Is there somewhere to go to understand French Marks? Seems little info and explanation on some sites.
I agree Hanau box,For French market, (world).

Regards Guido.

[oel]

Search the forum. Search the internet.
https://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONARYBIGORNE.html
Rember often mistakes and wrong information are copied again and again in forums, at other sites and in some books.
Peter.

[gsmoggy]

Many Thanks Peter.

You have been of great assistance.

Regards Guido.

[gsmoggy]

Hello Peter
I have found ,what I feel is another mark, because on the top probably anther French mark?
is it a French mark.

Regards Guido.

[oel]

Hi Guido,
Believe it not to be a (hall)mark. I do not recognise it, looks like an imperfection.

Peter.

[gsmoggy]

Hi Peter
Many thanks for your thoughts.
In my opinion ,I feel because of the outline shape ,something internal,and where it is, looks like a punch mark,.(I may be wrong)

interested if others have any ideas.

Regards Guido.

[gsmoggy]

Hi Peter
Looks to me the letters, A-A on either side of center mark.

Regards Guido.