I'm curious about the origins of the pattern and who may have designed it.
Regards, Tom
Austrian pattern
Austrian pattern
I've seen this pattern with the maker's mark of J. C. Klinkosch of Vienna (and I think also that of A. Sturm), some with pre-1922 marks, some with post-1922 marks. Additionally, I've seen the same pattern with a variety other makers' marks from Czechoslovakia and Hungary.
I'm curious about the origins of the pattern and who may have designed it.
Regards, Tom
I'm curious about the origins of the pattern and who may have designed it.
Regards, Tom
Hi Tom, I have seen pieces of this pattern with marks from all over the former Austrian-Hungarian empire. To the best of my knowledge, neither original maker nor designer (if such s simple pattern has a designer in the original sense of the word) have been identified. My guess: must be a prolific maker of silver cutlery in that region, doing a lot of business with retailers. Klinkosch comes to mind, because he was the biggest maker of silver cutlery there. I seem to remember that he advertised in the 1930ies to be the maker of over 100 different silver cutlery patterns. So until I find hard evidence to the contrary, I would attribute this to Klinkosch. Best wishes, Bahner
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Hi Bahner,
Many thanks for the information. Surprised to hear that Klinkosch was such a large concern.
Judging by the Austrian silver I see here in the US (on the east coast anyway), I would have thought that Alexander Sturm was far more prolific, even G. A. Scheid's mark turns up more often than that of Klinkosch. On reflection, I realize this probably only means that their export agents were more active.
True, the pattern is simple, but I find it elegant and refined in its simplicity. Hopefully, someday the source of it will be discovered.
Regards, Tom
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Many thanks for the information. Surprised to hear that Klinkosch was such a large concern.
Judging by the Austrian silver I see here in the US (on the east coast anyway), I would have thought that Alexander Sturm was far more prolific, even G. A. Scheid's mark turns up more often than that of Klinkosch. On reflection, I realize this probably only means that their export agents were more active.
True, the pattern is simple, but I find it elegant and refined in its simplicity. Hopefully, someday the source of it will be discovered.
Regards, Tom
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Hello, by luck I was just able to get two Klinkosch catalogues, one from ca. 1895, the other ca. 1907. The pattern mentioned in Tom’s question is number 96. It does not yet appear in the older catalogue. Here are three pics:
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The heliotype printing process enables one to see with a magnifier even the marks of the pieces shown in the catalogue(though they are to small to be photographed). There is something interesting. The helmet mark of Klinkosch can clearly be seen on most pieces. The other mark (on some pieces there are two additional marks) is very often scratched out - I am sure, the scratching was not done on the pieces photographed, but on the metal sheets the illustrations were printed from. But on a few pieces the mark / marks have not been scratched out. One can see the small rectangle mark used by the various assay officies of the Austrian Hungarian empire. In one instance one can clearly see the “M9” for Triest. The other scratched-out marks have the shape of maker’s marks. In one instance one can recognize “M S”, possibly Moritz Scharge from Vienna. I believe this catalogue documents, that the pieces of this pattern come from one source, Klinkosch ist the first that comes to mind. Best wishes, Bahner
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The heliotype printing process enables one to see with a magnifier even the marks of the pieces shown in the catalogue(though they are to small to be photographed). There is something interesting. The helmet mark of Klinkosch can clearly be seen on most pieces. The other mark (on some pieces there are two additional marks) is very often scratched out - I am sure, the scratching was not done on the pieces photographed, but on the metal sheets the illustrations were printed from. But on a few pieces the mark / marks have not been scratched out. One can see the small rectangle mark used by the various assay officies of the Austrian Hungarian empire. In one instance one can clearly see the “M9” for Triest. The other scratched-out marks have the shape of maker’s marks. In one instance one can recognize “M S”, possibly Moritz Scharge from Vienna. I believe this catalogue documents, that the pieces of this pattern come from one source, Klinkosch ist the first that comes to mind. Best wishes, Bahner
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Hello, forgot to add that the younger catalogue lists 36 line patterns and ca. 24 no-line patterns. There are a few line- and no-line patterns in the older catalogue, which are no longer in the younger. So when Klinkosch stated in the 1930ies that he made ca. 100 cutlery patterns, he probabaly wasn't vastly exaggerating. Best wishes, Bahner
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Re: Austrian pattern
Hello Tom and Bahner,
may be it is interesting to you. Additional to some pre- and post- 1922 examples from Austria and from Czechoslovakia I have also an example with this pattern from Poland.
Best regards, Ringo
may be it is interesting to you. Additional to some pre- and post- 1922 examples from Austria and from Czechoslovakia I have also an example with this pattern from Poland.
Best regards, Ringo