Sugar bowl, Moscow, 1844

[Juke*]

Hi!

This sugar bowls silversmith makers mark also unknown for me. The assayer is Andrei Kovalskij.





Regards,
Juke

[Qrt.S]

It could be Heinrich Steinschoporn in Moscow, but I'm not sure. He was active in Moscow around 1852, but???
Mind my asking, but what is the mark above above St. George ??? Looks like an upside down 875 and?

[Qrt.S]

Aaaaa it looks like a new Soviet mark from 1992. A barrel shielded right looking kokoshnik. Probably a remarking to enable a later selling in Soviet, or ??? Any ideas?

[Juke*]

Yes I notified him, also there was Georg Schwan. They both are mentioned in 1852 so I guess the question is if they were active in 1844?

How I understand this is that there are known objects made by them in 1852 and it is quite clear more or less that every silversmith worked for a longer time than just for one year. They both seem to have made similar types of silverware.

Here is a some what more clearer picture of the 875 and head control mark.

[Mart]

875 is a later Latvian mark.
All the silver products from the “ГШ” silversmith (if there really is a “ГШ”) that I saw were made only in 1844.

[Juke*]

@Mart: Thank you for the additional information. It is interesting these numerous cases (also in the list of silversmith mark catalogs) of silversmiths mentioned only for one particular year.

[Mart]

I think that often in these catalogs there are similar cases, because the authors have not seen enough products. It was a different time. They also often misread the initials on the stamps.
Of course, sometimes the silversmith worked for a short time. He could change his business, or get a different last name, or start working for another master, or move to another city, or simply die, or .....

[Qrt.S]

Yes there are some “ГШ" punches with or without dots. In addition the year 1852 is an approximate year often seen. The real period could be before or after or...? One should be careful with it and t check with other sources too.