German 15 loth fork silver hallmarks????

[jones2002]

Hi guys,

I can't identify the silver hallmarks . Please help me. Maybe it is a 15 loth hamburg hallmark or maybe a austro-hungarian marks.

Lenght 21 cm weight 77 grams . Silver acid test positive - intense red.







Thanks in advance.

[Theoderich]

Not Hamburg and not 15 Lot, but
Kopenhagen 1815

[Traintime]

Not loth, date under three tower for 1815, Danish…assay info here with Fabritius mark matching era: https://www.925-1000.com/dm_Assay.html

Wait for more info. from the experts.

[Traintime]

You can find 1817 in this project log to compare the tower style: viewtopic.php?t=37335&hilit=danish+tower&start=20

[jones2002]

You can find 1817 in this project log to compare the tower style: viewtopic.php?t=37335&hilit=danish+tower&start=20

Thank you very much.
I buy also in same set a french spoon with 1819 hallmark so it match perfectly.

Great job!!!

[Silverstone]

Hi Jones2002,
Traintime has the knowledge and I have the book.

Fridrich Hammer was born on Lolland Island/Denmark ( *29.03.1780 - † 11.03.1841).
He worked in Copenhagen.
Take a look at B4-1472.




Source: Danske guld- og sølvsmedemærker før 1870, 4. edition, revised by Henrik Jakobsen, Odense 2022, p. 153, 154

Regards
Silverstone

[jones2002]

Thanks you again. But a have a another question

Why are Fabritius and Hammer hallmarks on the same fork ?

Fabritius was more an overseer or approver ?

[oel]

You are right.
Fridrich Hammer is the silversmith, the maker of your silver fork.
Frederik Fabritius, he is the assayer who checked if the proper Danish silver fineness standard minimum 826/000 was used. See;
https://www.925-1000.com/dm_Assay.html



Peter

[Aguest]

::::: I have a couple of historical/cultural questions about this fork..... :::::

::::: The way the fork is turned over with the hallmarks on the bottom and the monogram facing up, is that more consistent with the Russian style of setting the table, I believe I have read before that the forks were placed on the table with the tines down and the reverse-side of the fork placed up so that the monogram can be prominently displayed. :::::::

::::: Also, the overall style of the fork, is there a French influence on this fork? This fork seems to be in a style that is traditionally French? There was considerable French influence in Holland (and possibly Scandinavia) during the early 19th century, so I was just wondering if the style is traditionally French (maybe this was made for a person from France or a person matching a cutlery set from France who needed a replacement fork?). ::::::::::

[jones2002]

::::: I have a couple of historical/cultural questions about this fork..... :::::

::::: The way the fork is turned over with the hallmarks on the bottom and the monogram facing up, is that more consistent with the Russian style of setting the table, I believe I have read before that the forks were placed on the table with the tines down and the reverse-side of the fork placed up so that the monogram can be prominently displayed. :::::::

::::: Also, the overall style of the fork, is there a French influence on this fork? This fork seems to be in a style that is traditionally French? There was considerable French influence in Holland (and possibly Scandinavia) during the early 19th century, so I was just wondering if the style is traditionally French (maybe this was made for a person from France or a person matching a cutlery set from France who needed a replacement fork?). ::::::::::

Hi, very good point sir.
Actually I buy it with a french spoon date from 1819 so in same age. Maybe today it is stupid but after Napoleon era all Europe was French orientated.