Regarding the dimensions it is: 2,6 x 7,7 x 6 cm so actually quite small for a cigarette box. Could it be something else? Like to hear it!
Cigarette box silver from Belgium?
Cigarette box silver from Belgium?
This silver box is marked with several hallmarks, N+G, PV, A835 and Z11. It looks like it comes from Belgium? Could somebody confirm this? And maybe somebody knows the Silversmith?
Regarding the dimensions it is: 2,6 x 7,7 x 6 cm so actually quite small for a cigarette box. Could it be something else? Like to hear it!
Regarding the dimensions it is: 2,6 x 7,7 x 6 cm so actually quite small for a cigarette box. Could it be something else? Like to hear it!
Re: Cigarette box silver from Belgium?
Hi, I think you are right, it seems to me a box for short cigarettes (72mm). The hinged lid with hinged dropout panel, made for convenience. Easily without shaking, they can take cigarettes out of the box.
Dutch ZII standard mark for silver 835/000. Z marks are used for objects which are submitted in finished condition, which consequently could then not be assayed as thoroughly. Always without a year letter and without Minerva head / office mark, used 1953-present.
N+G in rectangle, importer's mark of N.S. Gotlieb, registered in the cities 's-Hertogenbosch, Amsterdam and The Hague, 1953-1987. Gotlieb also worked as a silversmith, maker's mark NG above 52, used 1965-1987.
The silver standard mark, A 835 in oval, seems to be intended for the Belgian market. PV in barrel(?) or oval, the sponsor's mark, no Belgian match. Perhaps not made in Belgium but perhaps made in Germany/Austria, early 20th century for the Belgian market?
I found a similar box, according to seller made in Vienna around 1900.
Description
Silberdose / A silver box, Wien, um 1900
Material: silver 800/000,
Hallmark: guarantee mark, maker mark,
Dimensions: 8 x 5,5 x 2,5 cm,
Weight: 83 g,
Condition: with dents
Peter.
Source;; Walter van Dievoet, Algemeen repertorium van de edelsmeden en van de merken van edelsmeedwerk in België II 1798-1942, and Walter van Dievoet III 1942-1997.
Dutch ZII standard mark for silver 835/000. Z marks are used for objects which are submitted in finished condition, which consequently could then not be assayed as thoroughly. Always without a year letter and without Minerva head / office mark, used 1953-present.
N+G in rectangle, importer's mark of N.S. Gotlieb, registered in the cities 's-Hertogenbosch, Amsterdam and The Hague, 1953-1987. Gotlieb also worked as a silversmith, maker's mark NG above 52, used 1965-1987.
The silver standard mark, A 835 in oval, seems to be intended for the Belgian market. PV in barrel(?) or oval, the sponsor's mark, no Belgian match. Perhaps not made in Belgium but perhaps made in Germany/Austria, early 20th century for the Belgian market?
I found a similar box, according to seller made in Vienna around 1900.
Description
Silberdose / A silver box, Wien, um 1900
Material: silver 800/000,
Hallmark: guarantee mark, maker mark,
Dimensions: 8 x 5,5 x 2,5 cm,
Weight: 83 g,
Condition: with dents
Peter.
Source;; Walter van Dievoet, Algemeen repertorium van de edelsmeden en van de merken van edelsmeedwerk in België II 1798-1942, and Walter van Dievoet III 1942-1997.