Master EC in a German town with 3 towers?

[zilverik]

Hello,

This jug has a weight of 518 grams which is quite heavy for a jug of just 21 cm high.
Looks to me like German early/middle 18e century. The town mark could maybe be Hamburg or Mariënburg, but maybe another town. The other mark doesn't make sense to me. I couldn't find any master EC in Rosenberg. Any idea?

[zilverik]

Sorry, I mean this jug.

[zilverik]

Better photo of the third mark that I can't understand.

[zilverik]

Altona?

[zilverik]

The townmark for Madrid looks very much at this townmark with three towers. See Fernandez et al, Marcas de la Plata, Madrid 1992, page 222-228. If its Madrid, who is master EC?

[amena]

I am no expert on Spanish silver, but it seems to me that the Madrid castle should have the date underneath.

Could it be Valladolid?

Although the EC mark does not look very Spanish to me-
Regards
Amena

[zilverik]

Thank you for your response. In Fernandez, Marcas de la plata there is stated that the mark of Madrid is with or without the numbers. Mid and early 18e century it is mostly without numbers. Master EC isn’t in that book.

[amena]

Yes you are right.
Let's see if anyone can shed some light on the mystery

[zilverik]

Hi, I received a private message, content: “It's not a Spanish mark, although with a bit of imagination it could resemble a castle, I don't recognize it that way, and at that time, silversmiths marked it with their full name, never with their initials.”. So, not Spanish. Anyone with an idea?

[oel]

Perhaps for Harburg, Germany?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harburg,_Hamburg
For more information see W Scheffler, Goldschmiede Niedersachsen.

Peter.

Source; Helmut Seling, Helga Domdey-Knödler, European town marks

[zilverik]

Thank you Peter! Good hint. In Wolfgang Scheffler, Goldschmidt Niedersachsens, volume 2, I indeed found the townmark of Harburg. And I found more towns with similar townmarks with three towers. The pages under “Architecture” consists over 100 townmarks. From Harburg indeed, but also Steinkirchen, Celle, Hamburg, Nienburg, Oldenburg, Lauenburg. So, there is hope. However, up till now I didn’t find any master EC in any of these towns. Maybe an unknown master in one of these towns?