German Wedding Bowl, with Silver Stand - date of marks??

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eglass
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German Wedding Bowl, with Silver Stand - date of marks??

Post by eglass »

Hi there!

I'm hoping that the fellows familiar with old German hallmarks can give me a hand with this piece.

It's an old Czech Wedding Bowl in stained cut glass, with a silver stand. The marks on the stand say "NOACK" and have the 3-Castle mark used in the city of Hamburg. There's a "C" within the castle gate - do you know which assayer this mark was assigned to, and what his dates of service were?

I also wonder about the silver content. Any way to tell from just these marks?

This piece has been looked at by a Czech glass expert, and a professor at the Applied Arts Museum in Prague, who think that the glass is the work of Ignaz Palme (Pallme), which dates it from 1829-1840. I'm trying to determine if the frame was made FOR the piece during the same timeframe, or added after.

A million thanks!

Kelli

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Post by JAKJO »

Hi,

It is a very nice bowl in my opinion. I presume that the maker is Julius Noack, Hamburg.

Best regards,

JAKJO
eglass
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Post by eglass »

Hi JakJo!

I thought I'd put this info in but apparently not. I'd previously found out that it was made by Johann Friedrich August Noack (Hamburg, Master Silversmith, 1816) but don't know which assayer the "C" in the Hamburg castle mark denotes - I'm thinking that if I can find this info, I can date the bowl more readily.

Thanks again!

Kelli
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Post by Bahner »

Hello, „C“ was used by Friedrich Christoph Greve 1829 - 1854. Best wishes, Bahner
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