I have what appears to be a genuine Margot de Taxco necklace acquired from my grandmother who visited Mexico many times 1940's onwards. But the mark isnt quite the same as those shown. I think it may date from 1947-48, can anyone help me please?
Early margot de taxco mark, design no 5243?
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wendyhewson
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Early margot de taxco mark, design no 5243?
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I have what appears to be a genuine Margot de Taxco necklace acquired from my grandmother who visited Mexico many times 1940's onwards. But the mark isnt quite the same as those shown. I think it may date from 1947-48, can anyone help me please?
I have what appears to be a genuine Margot de Taxco necklace acquired from my grandmother who visited Mexico many times 1940's onwards. But the mark isnt quite the same as those shown. I think it may date from 1947-48, can anyone help me please?
Your mark is the same as the left mark illustrated for Margot at http://www.925-1000.com/mexican_marks.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The only difference is the lack of the eagle mark. Either it was made just before she began its use, or they simply forgot to add the stamp. Keep in mind that most of these stamps are separate entities. Her "Made in Mexico" stamp with the eagle at center was composed of 2 different stamps.
It is also worth noting that neither this, nor any other website, nor any book can claim to illustrate every single mark or combination of marks used by any silversmith or firm or country. We are trying though;)
Regards, Tom
The only difference is the lack of the eagle mark. Either it was made just before she began its use, or they simply forgot to add the stamp. Keep in mind that most of these stamps are separate entities. Her "Made in Mexico" stamp with the eagle at center was composed of 2 different stamps.
It is also worth noting that neither this, nor any other website, nor any book can claim to illustrate every single mark or combination of marks used by any silversmith or firm or country. We are trying though;)
Regards, Tom
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wendyhewson
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outofafrica
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in regards to wendy's question left on febr 19, 2008 on the margot bracelet
-- i am wondering if the "A" does not signify the use of margot molds by Miguel Arias -- a silversmith working for margot in the late 40s to 50s, usually he used his own hallmark, but perhaps while under margot's helmanship -- she may have required an "A" be used in addition to her hallmark stamps -- i have seen bracelets -- pre eagle times for her with #5204 with this "A" while most other #5204 with eagle 16 have no "A"
just a thought
-- i am wondering if the "A" does not signify the use of margot molds by Miguel Arias -- a silversmith working for margot in the late 40s to 50s, usually he used his own hallmark, but perhaps while under margot's helmanship -- she may have required an "A" be used in addition to her hallmark stamps -- i have seen bracelets -- pre eagle times for her with #5204 with this "A" while most other #5204 with eagle 16 have no "A"
just a thought
Hi,
I don't believe this necklace is composed of cast parts, it is handwrought repousse with solder applied backplates, hence no "molds" were used.
Over the years I've noticed that although some of Margot's work is cast, the bulk of her output is hand made and assembled work, usually rendered in the repousse technique with chased refinements - but I often see the non-applicable word "mold" used to describe these. As this happens so often with Margot, but not her contemporaries, I'm curious to learn the source of it.
Regards, Tom
I don't believe this necklace is composed of cast parts, it is handwrought repousse with solder applied backplates, hence no "molds" were used.
Over the years I've noticed that although some of Margot's work is cast, the bulk of her output is hand made and assembled work, usually rendered in the repousse technique with chased refinements - but I often see the non-applicable word "mold" used to describe these. As this happens so often with Margot, but not her contemporaries, I'm curious to learn the source of it.
Regards, Tom
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outofafrica
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hi tom
my apologies for incorrect use of terminology -- it is not the molds or manf technique that is the puzzle -- it is the use of the letter "A" behind the stamp number and what the "A" might signify
thanks for your quick response back -- will look forward to you thoughts on the above question
autumn
my apologies for incorrect use of terminology -- it is not the molds or manf technique that is the puzzle -- it is the use of the letter "A" behind the stamp number and what the "A" might signify
thanks for your quick response back -- will look forward to you thoughts on the above question
autumn
Hi Autumn,
I suspect it a benchman's mark, but of course there is no way of knowing for sure. Hopefully, some future treatise on Margot's work will have the answer.
Regards, Tom
ps. just googled - "margot de taxco" molds - all roads eventually led back to the current production of Melicio Rodriguez. I imagine the usage of "mold" stems from a poor translation of a Spanish word "molde", which can mean mold, but also means model, pattern or template
I suspect it a benchman's mark, but of course there is no way of knowing for sure. Hopefully, some future treatise on Margot's work will have the answer.
Regards, Tom
ps. just googled - "margot de taxco" molds - all roads eventually led back to the current production of Melicio Rodriguez. I imagine the usage of "mold" stems from a poor translation of a Spanish word "molde", which can mean mold, but also means model, pattern or template
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outofafrica
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