Hello, I am unable to find this mark in my books. Item is a footed trivet, thank you.
Help ID mark
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Re: Help ID mark
Hello.
That is a silverplate mark used by the Barbour Silver Comany. Check here:
http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_B.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pat.
That is a silverplate mark used by the Barbour Silver Comany. Check here:
http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_B.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pat.
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Barbour Silver Co.; from 1898: International Silver Co., in Hartford, CT
Hello Karen
Please look here (left side, top area): http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_B.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Then after please look here (right side): http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_I.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kind regards silverport
Hello Karen
Please look here (left side, top area): http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_B.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Then after please look here (right side): http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_I.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kind regards silverport
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Thanks so much! Does the Barbour mark then mean the trivet dates between 1892 and 1898- when Barbour became a division of International? Or did International continue the use of the Barbour mark? How does one tell the trivet is silverplate and not sterling? Wish I was more sophistocated about the letters "CEP" and the the triple *** under the mark.
With ongoing thanks,
Karen
With ongoing thanks,
Karen
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You're welcome.
International Silver continued to use the Barbour trademark into 1931.
It wouls be marked sterling or .925 if it wasn't silverplated.
Pat.
International Silver continued to use the Barbour trademark into 1931.
It wouls be marked sterling or .925 if it wasn't silverplated.
Pat.
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Pat,
Thank you so very much for your help!
Karen
Thank you so very much for your help!
Karen
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»CEP« and »***« are (internal) indications for the quality of plate?
Hello Karen
May I add some remarks on the markings:
The scratched »B« could be an external sign of property, if it was e.g. lent for a get together?
»99« is maybe in this case the model number — helpful in the warehouse and for the commerce too.
»CEP« wasn’t visible in yours images - » EP« signification is »Electro Plated«.
»***« could be, that is a guess of me, an internal indication for the, on first sight not visible, quality of plate.
Commercial side-effect would maybe, that the clients remember the quality indication with stars in other places, like e.g. hotels, restaurants …
In the United Kingdom and in the States it was/is normally usual to indicate the quality of plate by use of letters:
AI or A1 = extra strong Plate, A = good strong Plate, B = well plated, C = lighter Plate, D = lighter Plate.
As example of the being used gram of silver for 12 table spoon or table forks (by Barker Bros. Birmingham, UK; around 1900-1910):
A1 = extra strong Plate Quality = 32 gram on 12 pieces = 2 2/3 gram per table spoon or table fork
A = good strong Plate Quality = 24 gram on 12 pieces = 2 gram per table spoon or table fork
B = well plated Quality = 16 gram on 12 pieces = 1 1/3 gram per table spoon or table fork
C = lighter Plate Quality = 12 gram on 12 pieces = 1 gram per table spoon or table fork
D = lighter Plate Quality = 6 gram on 12 pieces = 1/2 gram per table spoon or table fork
In Europe, e.g. in France and Germany, it was usual to indicate directly visible the gram of silver being used; if yours trivet were a French or German product, then there were indicated the gram of silver per (whole) unit.
Please look here for the indications:
http://www.925-1000.com/a_platenumbers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maybe this is a little help and informative too.
Kind regards silverport
Hello Karen
May I add some remarks on the markings:
The scratched »B« could be an external sign of property, if it was e.g. lent for a get together?
»99« is maybe in this case the model number — helpful in the warehouse and for the commerce too.
»CEP« wasn’t visible in yours images - » EP« signification is »Electro Plated«.
»***« could be, that is a guess of me, an internal indication for the, on first sight not visible, quality of plate.
Commercial side-effect would maybe, that the clients remember the quality indication with stars in other places, like e.g. hotels, restaurants …
In the United Kingdom and in the States it was/is normally usual to indicate the quality of plate by use of letters:
AI or A1 = extra strong Plate, A = good strong Plate, B = well plated, C = lighter Plate, D = lighter Plate.
As example of the being used gram of silver for 12 table spoon or table forks (by Barker Bros. Birmingham, UK; around 1900-1910):
A1 = extra strong Plate Quality = 32 gram on 12 pieces = 2 2/3 gram per table spoon or table fork
A = good strong Plate Quality = 24 gram on 12 pieces = 2 gram per table spoon or table fork
B = well plated Quality = 16 gram on 12 pieces = 1 1/3 gram per table spoon or table fork
C = lighter Plate Quality = 12 gram on 12 pieces = 1 gram per table spoon or table fork
D = lighter Plate Quality = 6 gram on 12 pieces = 1/2 gram per table spoon or table fork
In Europe, e.g. in France and Germany, it was usual to indicate directly visible the gram of silver being used; if yours trivet were a French or German product, then there were indicated the gram of silver per (whole) unit.
Please look here for the indications:
http://www.925-1000.com/a_platenumbers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Maybe this is a little help and informative too.
Kind regards silverport
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Re: Help ID mark
Silverport, thank you for the additional information. You clearly are knowledgeable and I so appreciate any pointers shared!
Karen
Karen