Russian silver serving spoon

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Lars
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Russian silver serving spoon

Post by Lars »

Hi,
I've found this silver serving spoon, it's 29cm long and 135gr. On rear side there are 4 hallmarks: silver standard "84", town mark "St. George" (Moscow), asseyer's mark "Н.Д 1828" and maker's mark which I can recognise (it looks like "G.W." or "I.W., see attached picture).

For me, it's more interesting monogram on front side: letter "R" (in cyrilic it looks like "P") and two-headed eagle with small crowns over big crown. Does anyone know anything about this maker or monogram (this monogram look to me like it's related to royalty)

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Qrt.S
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Re: Russian silver serving spoon

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Hmmmm...The 9 sponged coronet does hardly indicate royalty but nobility. In this case most likely baron/marquise. I have no idea of what noble family "P" might be, sorry about that.

The assayer is Nikolai Dubrovin in Moscow 1822-1855.
The maker's initials are JW indicating Jakob Wiberg. What is interesting that his working period was supposed to be 1829-1852 but on the spoon we can see the year 1828...hmmm again!

Let's wait for more comments...
AG2012
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Re: Russian silver serving spoon

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The appearance of the crown in heraldry follows a strict set of rules; it is Russian count’s coronet (nine spikes — pearls), but the same in German speaking countries, The Netherlands, Italy etc. In a word, the coronet by itself cannot link the engraving to Russia.
Lars
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Re: Russian silver serving spoon

Post by Lars »

Thank you Qrt.S
With 2 years difference between years, I still believe it could be genuine, specially I don't see that hallmarks have been tempered with

Also thank you AG2012,
I've done little research, and you are right, nine spikes are always count’s coronet, but also I've found out that only Russian coat of arms have double-headed eagle with crowns on both heads, as the engraving on the spoon is
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