Austro-Hungarian silversmith S.S

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Ubaranda
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Austro-Hungarian silversmith S.S

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Hi all!
I have the nice cup from Austro-Hungaria. I suppose it was made in the last quarter of 19th century by Viennese silversmith Samuel Steiner. However, since the town assay letter is unreadable I doubt it.
Maybe anybody knows this mark? Be grateful for any information.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian silversmith S.S

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I see an A
That would be wienna
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Hmmm. There seem to have been three Samuel Steiners. There was a Samuel Steiner (1) (born around 1844, active 1868 to 1889) who was granted his license in 1868; his workshop was transferred to Samuel Steiner (2), who was granted his license in 1890, and was active 1890 to 1903. He became a partner of Schwartz & Steiner in 1903, which was active until after 1924. Samuel Steiner (3) was granted his license in 1892 who had a different address entirely (Singerstr. 2). His mark was "S St" in a notched rectangle; not a match, thus.
Actually, (and I do not mean to contradict our friend and collegue), I think that I see the letter "P" rather than an A, and perhaps we should look at Budapest instead.
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Sorry to respond to my own post, but (just to be clear): the mark for Samuel Steiner (3) was "S St" in a notched rectangle, and does not match; the mark for Samuel Steiner (2) of Schwarz & Steiner was S & S in an oblong (rounded rectangle), and also does not match; and I have not located a mark for Samuel Steiner (1). Perhaps someone else can "confirm or deny" the mark for Steiner (1). If it is a mark from Budapest, we will not have much luck anyway :-)
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Hi Hose_dk! Hi joris!
Thank you for your quick response! Unfortunately, I viewed these marks at different angles and in different lighting and see no assay town letter - only small point :-(. So I very much hope that somebody knows this maker's mark.
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