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please help identify hallmarks on silver galleon
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:37 am
by wills
there are two sets of hallmarks on this galleon, the one that is unidentified is the left hand one of the lower image. If anyone can help identify it's origin and the likely history of the galleon we would be very pleased to know.
many thanks
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:22 am
by wolfgang
Hi, this looks very much like"Neresheimer", german silver factory, founded 1890 in Hanau; lot of marks, but the makers mark is probably the "n" for Neresheimer...
regards wolfgang
silver galleon
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:55 pm
by wills
thank you very much for your quick reply - I will look into Neresheimer
thanks
silver galleon
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:29 pm
by wills
Does anybody recognise the other hallmark to the left of the 'N' - sorry about the focus but the hallmark is worn so hard to see the detail.
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:34 pm
by admin
That is a pseudomark imitating the old town mark for Hanau.
Regards, Tom
silver galleon
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:32 am
by wills
Thank you so much for the help with this hallmark - is this ship an example of a german silver nef?
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:55 am
by wolfgang
To complete info, in the upper row of marks you find the import mark for London and the mark for 1927 "m" regards
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:02 am
by Bahner
Hello, an original photograph of this piece, dated 1902, still exists in the Neresheimer archive. Similiars nefs were made in Augsburg or Darmstadt (and most likely in Nürnberg and other cities as well) in the early 17th century. It is currently not known, whether this was modeled after an old original (which still might exist somewehere - at least it was not in Neresheimer’s own collection) or whether this is a combination of elements found on various old pieces. Best wishes, Bahner
silver nef
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:50 am
by wills
Hi Bahner
Thank you for your reply, we appreciate your time. Very interesting to hear that this piece is in the Neresheimer archives, you say dated 1902, is that the photograph or the piece? Do you know if it is possible to access these archives online as we would love to see an original photograph. We would be very interested in any other information you have. Thanks again!
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:47 am
by Bahner
Hello, the photograph was published in 1992 in the book "Tafel- und Schausilber des Historismus aus Hanau" by B.-W. Thiele. Thiele just mentioned the date 1902 without further explanation. I cannot post the photo as the publisher still has the copyright on it. I don't know where the Neresheimer archive is today, sorry. Best wishes, Bahner