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800 Mark on Small Bronze and Silver Arab figurine
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:30 pm
by Adam.NYC
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:35 pm
by dragonflywink
Looks like Italian, 1968 or later.
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~Cheryl
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:47 pm
by Adam.NYC
Thanks for looking! I will start there and if I find a province for the letters 'AR' I will look further.
Adam
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:05 pm
by many45
The marks in the first picture, certainly looks Italian, but I'm not quite sure. The mark should be octagonal. It seems to be stamped twice, so it is difficult to see if this is the case. There is a star to the left is there?
However you won't find any province beginning with AR. If it is AB it could be Abruzzi.
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many
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:21 pm
by Adam.NYC
It is impossible to tell if there is a star there because of the double stamp. Anyway, it would be unusual for the Catholic country of Italy to produce this Moslem figure.
It would be interesting, though, to be able to find even one small figurine that was made in bronze with 800 silver accents. At least, I haven't been able to find any on the internet.
So many marks but none which have helped!
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:29 pm
by many45
Are you sure it is a Moslem figure? Couldn't it be a Biblical figure reading an Old Testament scroll?
many
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:39 pm
by Adam.NYC
The ring on top of his head holding the headdress is indicative of Muslim garb.
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:48 pm
by many45
I guess you are right about it being a Moslem figure. You have to search within the Arab world, perhaps? I'm afraid it won't be easy to find out.
many
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:25 pm
by admin
Believe AR = Arezzo, your figure appears to be an electroformed piece of recent manufacture. Could be Muslim or Biblical, Italy, like most everywhere today, is quite ecumenical when it comes to marketing.
Regards, Tom
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:39 pm
by Adam.NYC
Thanks for the information. What about the letters in Arabic and the other marks, such as ncr.1 and MET. I thought maybe 'Met' was short for Metropolitan Museum of Art and this could have been sold by them, but I have no evidence that they sold anything like this in the recent past. (I am actually a member of the museum and have visited many times in the last 30 years).
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:44 pm
by many45
You are right, Tom! Arezzo is a province. Wikipedia is wrong. There are around 100 provinces in Italy, not 20. Perhaps they mix up provinces and regions? I don't know.
many
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:08 pm
by admin
Met = metal, stamped so you'll know that the silver mark only applies to that area of the piece. I think the other mark is a copyright symbol followed by the signature of whomever modelled the figurine.
Regards, Tom
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:19 pm
by Adam.NYC
Thanks so much for THAT information!
Adam
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:17 pm
by salmoned
Why equate a headband with Moslem? Just about any creche figures with robes covering the heads will have similar bands.
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:37 am
by Adam.NYC
I am still going with that theory because of the facial features and because of the marks which appear to be Arabic.