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Please help identify maker and country on this pot
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:31 pm
by maieast
I have tried to find this mark and have had no luck - looks like a horn and I think Cornet or Corneter. Of course we may be looking at this totally wrong. I believe the 2 letters are MB? This may be why I can't find anything - looking for the wrong name. Any help would be appreciated. PS: Cleaning is in process (whoever had this just did not take very good care, doesn't look to have ever been cleaned).

Thank you for looking....
Margi

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:03 pm
by Silvy
Hi Margi,
I am owning several items of Cornet. Cornet was a german producer of "Hotelsilber" (Hotelsilver) . The items where exclusively sold in the professional Hotel and Restaurant area. The makers mark is the name.
cornet ( a musical instrument (horn) ) and the picture of a horn.
The mark AS behind Cornet means : antik silver finish,artificial pattinated silver.The 10 is the amount of silver used in this case for electroplating.
Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:14 pm
by maieast
Hi Silvy - I really appreciate all the information that you have given me. I was really getting a little frustrated because I could not find this anywhere on the internet or in books that I had (of course I was trying to look for "cornetas" instead of just cornet. The strange thing is my husband tested this and says the test came back as sterling and now we need to find out what is up with the tester : ).
Thanks again for the information.
Margi
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:38 pm
by Silvy
Hi Margi,
I have to make a correction: its not AS after the name cornet,it must be a 48 or 49 , a production serie,or the year. On top ,what I thought to be a ten,must be the "1,0" what is the content of the pot in liters.and at least the "32" is definitely the amount of silver measured in grams what was used for the electroplating. On my photo ,taken from the back of a plate you see the "54" for the amount of silver in grams.
aditional words for testing the silver:
--- Testing electroplated items for the question of massiv silver or plated is only possible by searching the surface for any scratches which are deep enough to show the base material, or if the item is without scratches ,by weight. For the second procedure ,you only have to take a large basket or casserole ,large enough to put your item in it and fill it with water until its covered. Now you make a sign how high the waterlevel is. Take your item out of the water, and fill up water just to the sign with anything allowing to see,how much water it is (cooking utensil) Now you know how many cubic inches your item has. After that you weight your item . At the end you google for the specific weight of silver, and multiply it with your measured wateramount .If the result is much under your weighted result,your item is silvered,because silvered items are much heavier than massiv silver items.-------------
Often testers only test the silverquality of the surface but thats nonsense,because the silver on the surface is 100% silver,better than sterling.
best regards Silvy
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:03 pm
by maieast
Hi Silvy - I sure appreciate all the information - especially on the silver testing part. I sure didn't know about the water test and we are about to check it out. The other information about the numbers is great help too! Now we just have to discover if that is a 48 or 49 - LOL! Thanks again - your insight is wonderful!
Margi
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:46 pm
by salmoned
About the 'water test' (specific gravity), I'd like to say that a much better measure of volume is obtained by weighing the item suspended in water and noting the the difference in weight [when suspended in air]. That difference in grams is approximately equal to the displacement in cubic centimeters, since water has a density of about 1 gram/cc.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:13 pm
by maieast
Thank you too, Salmoned. I did not realize there were that many ways for testing for volume. Well, maybe I did, but I guess I just didn't apply it to testing silver. Sure do appreciate this information. These are going in my "need to remember" place! : )
Margi