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Knife Hallmark-Help Needed -Crowned Lion & Duty Head ?

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:35 pm
by pauline5555
Hello-

I have come across this knife and have had trouble identifying the hallmarks. I feel they are a bit conflicted. I think the lion passant is crowned but I can't be sure. I haven't seen another like it, but then there is a duty profile head and no city or town hallmark.

Can someone help me identify this knife, possibly an age and maker, etc.
Thanks
Pauline

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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:16 am
by buckler
Look first at style - put a mental date on it.
Next look at marks. First re-action - the lion faces the wrong way, but the other marks include a duty head of George III.
Style seems wrong for period of Duty mark, lion passant is wrong for any English assay office post 1784 . Marks are very crisp and unworn for Georgian silver.
Conclusion. Psuedo marks or very poor fake.
Sorry !
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:38 am
by pauline5555
Using all of my mental energy, but still want to know a little more. Someone made it and it wasn't me. Is there anthing you may be able to tell me about the maker's mark. The other thing I thought was odd is that the lion passant is crowned and the other direction.

So if it is a fake, it's a fake what from when. Thanks
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:46 am
by dragonflywink
Pauline, if you'll note, your post was moved to the American Coin Silver Forum. Not really my area and can't help you with the maker, but your piece is not a fake, it bears typical American pseudo-marks. Hopefully someone will be along to ID your maker and his working dates.

~Cheryl
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:39 pm
by 2209patrick
Hello.

Reminds me of some mid 19th century Canadian psuedo marks that I have seen.

Just as an example, the mark of Franz Meyer, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada:
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Checked my Canadian and American 19th century references, but could not find your mark.

Pat.
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:01 pm
by dragonflywink
Heh, was just pondering on the mark, thinking that it looked so familiar and was going to suggest it might be a Canadian maker.

~Cheryl
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:57 pm
by dognose
Hi,

Just a shot in the dark, there was a Henry Davis working in Ontario c.1850.

Trev.
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:42 pm
by wev
The FM example is Frederick Marquand, well known, well documented.
The retailer of the knife is Henry Dennery, working c 1810-1820 in New York City.
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