Confirm as pre-1820 Hamburg?
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:35 pm
I have a set of these forks. The handles are absolutely (13 mark) silver but the tines are some other material (which polishes but is darker than the handles), obviously hand-forged, and no 2 are alike. They're extremely heavy with sharp hand-cut tines.
Some bear a monogram, but the engraving style and placement differs on each one, so I suppose it was a set that was commissioned or purchased over time.
Photographing the marks was very difficult. Here is a pic of the forks:
![Image](http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/phins420/forks1.jpg)
Some of the forks have a very clear AH in block capitals with serifs inside a rectangle, which leads me to believe they're by Johann Andreas Holbeling (1791-1898 Hamburg). There is no concession mark, but there is the number 13 in a rectangle.
Some of the forks have illegible 2 letter stamps that may or may not say AH as well, but they do not include a 13 mark, thet have some something inside a clearly cinquefoil shape like this:
![Image](http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/phins420/forks2.jpg)
The shape could conceivably be a profile, but it's too difficult to tell.
I hope I gave enough info here, and sorry I couldn't get clear pictures of the marks (I will try again though). Maybe the style and mixed composition of the forks can help dating these items.
I was originally researching these as Dutch, so I was happy to find the AH mark, but at this point I'm stumped by the combination of marks and the unusual design.
Thank you in advance for your help!
Some bear a monogram, but the engraving style and placement differs on each one, so I suppose it was a set that was commissioned or purchased over time.
Photographing the marks was very difficult. Here is a pic of the forks:
![Image](http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/phins420/forks1.jpg)
Some of the forks have a very clear AH in block capitals with serifs inside a rectangle, which leads me to believe they're by Johann Andreas Holbeling (1791-1898 Hamburg). There is no concession mark, but there is the number 13 in a rectangle.
Some of the forks have illegible 2 letter stamps that may or may not say AH as well, but they do not include a 13 mark, thet have some something inside a clearly cinquefoil shape like this:
![Image](http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv290/phins420/forks2.jpg)
The shape could conceivably be a profile, but it's too difficult to tell.
I hope I gave enough info here, and sorry I couldn't get clear pictures of the marks (I will try again though). Maybe the style and mixed composition of the forks can help dating these items.
I was originally researching these as Dutch, so I was happy to find the AH mark, but at this point I'm stumped by the combination of marks and the unusual design.
Thank you in advance for your help!