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german birth cup - 1706, request for help to identify maker
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:39 pm
by suomoo
Hello,
I'm new on this forum and I would like to say hello to everyone on this site.
I'm interested in antique silver and collect it. Sometimes I come accross an item which turns out to be a bit of a puzzle.
I have a small solid silver antique cup with date of 1706 (birth cup, likely German) but I cannot find its hallmarks. I have searched in all my books but ..not an exact match. Could anyone help me identyfing the town and maker of the cup ? Many thanks in advance
Re: german birth cup - 1706, request for help to identify ma
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:35 pm
by Theoderich
Beautifully :-)
hello and welcome to this forum
Do you know what this cup is written?
>>Anno 1706 dem 16. Januar ist gebohren Sebastian Schlayperiz sein Gevatterin Fr. Susanna Cathearina Burg von Ebertz
G:G:G<<
on the 1.16.1706 Sebastian Schlayperitz was born - from his Mother Ms. Susanna Catharina Burg (castle) of Ebertz.
Re: german birth cup - 1706, request for help to identify ma
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:12 am
by Theoderich
Sorry Gevatterin = godmother
it is from godmother to godson
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>>Anno 1706 dem 16. Januar ist gebohren Sebastian Schlayperiz sein Gevatterin Fr. Susanna Cathearina Burg von Ebertz
G:G:G<<
on the 1.16.1706 Sebastian Schlayperitz was born - his godmother Ms. Susanna Catharina Burg (castle) of Ebertz.
G:G:G = God give grace
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:55 pm
by suomoo
Hello Theoderich,
My German is reasonable but my interpretation was not quit correct. Many thanks for giving the correct text and translation.
kind regards
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:55 am
by Theoderich
This was a tip from Solpar.
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:15 am
by Solpar
Origin Lindau, makers mark "AIR", probably family Rad
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:46 am
by stecci
Hello Suomoo
For your cup the following information:
The name really means "Schlapperiz" in today's spelling Schlapperizi. This family are citizens of St. Gallen. They had previously owned in Lindau.
The maker's mark "AIR" is probably the Lindauer goldsmith "Rüel. It was about 1645 in Lindau master.
The goldsmiths Rad (Ulrich 1480 to 1526, and Christopher I mentioned from 1628 to 1697) do not both come to the question.
Gruss
Stećci