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Identify Maker and Family Crest

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:44 am
by Samuel
Hi there can anyone help with identifying the maker of this dish and family crest? Greatly appreciated!

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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:04 am
by nigel le sueur
ls it me or is there something not right here ? the makers mark looks like John Gibson Leadbetter (Grimwades) who entered his mark in 1757 although it is not easy to see in the book
The "Date Letter" N appears to be 1728 but this is far to early, on closer inspection is that a Leopards Head Crowned or something else? and it appears to be wrong for that period, Lion Passant ? if it has be rubbed then the other marks look quite deep still, and is that CoT?
l look forward to other replies, maybe l am not looking closer enough.
Nigel
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:25 am
by dognose
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:50 am
by admin
Moved, perhaps not British?
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Looks «Hanau» in Style and Marks

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:11 am
by silverport
Hello

Have seen first then from beginning on I had the impression «Hanau! ».

Look: http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Makers? There are some one; e.g. Storck & Sinsheimer/Neumann, Weinranck & Schmidt, ...

Concrete solution - seems to me - would be come soon.

I was told that a few weeks from now on, would be published a book on Hanau silver history, silver industries, workshop, marks, pseudo marks - very sounded results of intense research. Sources: Not DGoV!

Author: Johanna Gehrlein - Title unknown; but of course «Hanau»

I haven't - as I remember - any Hanau silver in my collection. But I wait as like for X-mass on this book.

Kind regards silverport
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:19 am
by joho
Co-joined HL and N look like Herman Lang, Nurnburg 1650 -1700. But what of CT and pineapple? Perhaps all spurious marks!

Regards
John
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«bunch of grapes with leaf» is never an Augsburg «pinecon

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:22 am
by silverport
Hello

By own experience I know perfect the difficulty of punches - maybe out of this «925-1000» started.

I see and read «buckler's» contributions - he is one of the few who look on detail.

This «bunch of grapes with typical vine leaf» is never an Augsburg «pinecone» nor e.g. a «pineapple».

Nearly all of us have to learn that a punch is a «composition» of «details» - also if it is a letter punch only.

Kind regards silverport
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:54 pm
by Samuel
Hi there, Thanks everyone for helping figure out the markings. I haven't quite understood, Is there another word for "Punches" I guess I'm still new. I hope to still get some more solid info for this piece.

Thanks again!
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Re: Identify Maker and Family Crest

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:05 pm
by nobilityhouse
The marks are indeed German. This is the crest and coat of arms for FUGGER of Augsburg. For examples, search for Fugger wappen in Google Image. Cheers.