Help with maker on this spoon T.D
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:49 pm
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Re: Help with maker on this spoon T.D
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:10 pm
it is french (1798-1809)
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:05 am
Hi and welcome to the forum Cheita25,
There is a hatchet; the Dutch duty-free mark used on old silver 1853-1927
and the French guarantee mark (Fasces) for small objects used in the period you, Theoderich, stated.
I have no idea about the mark below the maker's mark "TD".
Best regards/JAKJO
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There is a hatchet; the Dutch duty-free mark used on old silver 1853-1927
and the French guarantee mark (Fasces) for small objects used in the period you, Theoderich, stated.
I have no idea about the mark below the maker's mark "TD".
Best regards/JAKJO
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hmmm
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:53 pm
then what year were they made 1798-1809 or 1850's ?
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:48 am
Hi,
The spoon is made between 1798 and 1809, and later re-assayed in The Netherlands.
I find it a bit tricky to assure you that it is "French", because it was made when Napoleon ruled over The Netherlands, Belgium and parts of Italy and Germany and the napoleonic silver marking regime was introduced in several parts of Europe. The lozenge-shaped maker's marks are typical French.
I would like to request another and better picture of the unidentified mark.
Best regards/JAKJO
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The spoon is made between 1798 and 1809, and later re-assayed in The Netherlands.
I find it a bit tricky to assure you that it is "French", because it was made when Napoleon ruled over The Netherlands, Belgium and parts of Italy and Germany and the napoleonic silver marking regime was introduced in several parts of Europe. The lozenge-shaped maker's marks are typical French.
I would like to request another and better picture of the unidentified mark.
Best regards/JAKJO
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:00 am
Ok cool this becoming a fun project for me. I also noticed 4 spoons in the lot of 12 that have completely different makers & hallmarks .... strange maybe replacements I will get new photos added asap
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:38 am
Ok, Here are 3 different makers and hallmarks for the same exact pattern spoons. hope that makes sense because I know nothing about this but learning is allways fun.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:32 am
nice Maker GCF ?
Date-Letter a = 1807/08
, Zwolle, 10 penningen = 833/1000.
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Date-Letter a = 1807/08
, Zwolle, 10 penningen = 833/1000.
http://www.zilverkeuren.nl/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.zilverkeuren.nl/fmi/xsl/cnt/ ... 0Voorkomen(1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:40 am
Hi,
Having seen the new pictures I am convinced that I have to move your question to the Dutch section. The reason is that there is a 10 penningen-mark used between 1807-1812 for 833/1000 pure silver and a bird mark (Ooievaar) a stork that was used in The Hague/Den Haag in The Netherlands.
Best regards/JAKJO
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Having seen the new pictures I am convinced that I have to move your question to the Dutch section. The reason is that there is a 10 penningen-mark used between 1807-1812 for 833/1000 pure silver and a bird mark (Ooievaar) a stork that was used in The Hague/Den Haag in The Netherlands.
Best regards/JAKJO
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:37 pm
Any information on the makers are they unknown any ideas ?
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:01 pm
Thomas dicks or Thomas daniell could T.D from a netherlands marked piece have been made by him ? I have found Gerrit Christoffel Fels made one of my spoons but the rest are marked T.D rather then GCF and the date letter shows 1807 with a stork showing the spoons are dutch I'm confused.
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