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Schöpflöffel from Pragh
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:44 pm
by Hose_dk
Item no 2 - I like that word Schöpflöffel, Schöpflöffel
Tax mark TF and 13 silver B 1819,
then maker IL - who is IL?
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:39 pm
by blakstone
There is very little published on 19th century Prague silversmiths, but I do keep a small database of what information I’ve come across. The best I can say here is that this is probably by a silversmith named Johann Lechner. His name and mark appears on a copper insculpation plaque of Prague goldsmiths begun in 1807; his mark is not entirely legible in the photo I have of the plaque, but it is at least consistent with the one here. Lechner was born around 1783 or 1788: he is listed as age 31 in a record for the birth of his son Jan on 15 Aug 1819, but as age 41 in his own death record of 30 May 1824. In both records he is listed as a citizen & silverworker.
Hope this helps!
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:03 am
by Hose_dk
Thanks - amazing that the silver of Pragh has not been researched. In fact 190 years is not that much. But still.
Thanks for the (possible) name.
B for Linz, C for Prag - if this is correct, how could this?
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:51 pm
by silverport
Hello
in:
http://www.925-1000.com/Faustria_02.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is signification of letter code B standing for Linz, and C for Prag.
Well, Mrs. Waltraud Neuwirth has researched for Vienna. But now must come up an Austrian, Czech, Hungaryan, ... young generation of Art historians who take over this necessary research. Maybe there are some who take over the mission? Thank you kindly, if you would start just now.
Kind regards silverport
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:54 pm
by blakstone
Austro-Hungarian marks were extensively revised in 1866 with the introduction of the "Dianakopf" mark; the assay office code letters were revised at the same time. "B" was the code letter for Prague from 1807 until 1866; it was changed to "C" in 1866, which it remained until the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire after World War I.
The code letters in the link you provide are applicable
only for the marks in use 1866-1922. I have, in fact, done some research into these codes. Here is a link to a chart I have created, which I believe to be the most accurate and complete listing of
Austro-Hungarian Assay Office Codes, 1866-1922.
But the "B" code on the ladle in this thread - dated 1819 - is definitely for Prague. If members are interested, I can compose a similar chart of the code letters in use 1807-1866, but I would ask your patience in doing so.
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:06 pm
by Theoderich
blakstone wrote:
But the "B" code on the ladle in this thread - dated 1819 - is definitely for Prague. If members are interested, I can compose a similar chart of the code letters in use 1807-1866, but I would ask your patience in doing so.
Good Idea -
I hope that this site will remain.
:-)
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:24 pm
by dognose
Hi Blakstone,
That's a brilliant piece of work! I take my hat off to you.
I'm sure a chart of of the 1807-1866 code letters would be of interest to many.
Thank you for posting the 1866-1922 version.
Regards Trev.
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:43 pm
by Hose_dk
Indeed also thank you from me.
I am not very familiar with Austria Hungaria - my idea was to bring home a few souveniers from a vacation in Pragh. I usualy by a bit of silver when in a new city.
So the list would be most welcome - I have printed the other and saved by my registre.