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Antique SOLID SILVER FIGURAL Pipe - Need Help with Hallmarks
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:22 am
by Argiry
Hello,
I need some help identifying what these Silver marks mean on this Solid Silver Pipe, looks French or English perhaps. I know these solid silver figural pipes are very old, thats all though. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you
Alex Argiry
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German pipe after 1 Jan. 1888; whole seller: Wilhelm Müller
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:15 am
by silverport
Hello Alex
Welcome to our forums.
I liked to make my siesta — but now this would be a reason for put of:
Who the maker was I couldn’t say yet — because the maker’s mark is on her left part struck over by whole sellers mark »
XX«.
That mark was
trade mark of
Wilhelm Müller (founded 1847) in Berlin, Germany with dependency in Pforzheim, Germany.
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Have a nice summertime!
Kind regards silverport
As mentioned the original maker I couldn’t find out yet
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:15 pm
by silverport
Hello Alex
Until yet I couldn’t find out the original producer; sorry.
Here you could see the 1905 printed XX mark
XX was founded in
1847.
Their address in that time in Berlin was:
Wilhelm Müller, Berlin C 19, Gertraudtenstrasse 10-12
Fernsprecher (telephone): Amt I (central switch I), Nr. 1625 + 1664
Telegramm-Adresse für Berlin (telegram address for Berlin):
Goldmüller, Berlin
XX has signed many of the by them distributed items with a letter-code: 2 minuscule script letters
This kind of internal indication by use of 26 letters, combined with 26 letters, is 676 different outside supplier.
Until yet I haven’t got knowledge, if and where a copy of this internal code exist — because XX don’t exist any more.
Kind regards silverport
Thank you for your help!
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:37 pm
by Argiry
Thank you for all your help, I really appreciate the time and research! I looked through Kovels and books of maker marks without luck. In fact the pipe books I own there are only 3 solid silver figural pipes so they are very rare and unusual to learn about. Thanks again for the help! Take care all
Best Regards,
Alex
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:57 am
by Bahner
Hello, Wilhelm Müller still exists in Schwäbisch-Gmünd. Check the internet for the homepage of wilhelmmueller.de. Their premises in Berlin were destroyed during the war and most of their archive was lost. Still - you might want to try your luck with them. Best wishes, Bahner