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Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:34 pm
by eleazar
After reading a few posts about fake polish items I would like to know if these might be fakes or not

They dont have the owl hallmark

The cartouches are not engraved, is this normal?

Thanks!!!

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Re: Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:14 am
by Postnikov
Hi -

please try to post better (larger) detail photos, so we can explain the single marks. On the first glance your objects look authentic - but with better photos we can see exactly what it is. Unengraved cartouches are common - it was a matter of money, time and personal taste.

Regards
Postnikov

Re: Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:55 am
by Qrt.S
Yes, better and sharper photos of the marks would help the identification remarkably. However, what can be seen as for now is:

The upper mark seems to be the (Jan) Pogorzelski factory with their trade mark a stag's head, The assayer Walery Kostrebsky in Warszaw 1859 (1852-1860)

The lower mark is difficult to read because it is over marked and blurry. The only thing I can see with certainty is the assayer's mark O.C. It is Osip Sosikowsky/Sosenkowskij...also in Warszaw (1869-1896) but the rest ?????

What I stated is with reservations only. New pictures might change my current opinion.

Re: Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:06 am
by eleazar
Thanks for your answers, I will post better pictures of the marks
the other maker is F. ROEVER

Re: Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:24 pm
by eleazar
Here are the new pictures, thanks for your advice!!

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Re: Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:22 pm
by Qrt.S
OK, got it!

First mark is what I stated and the second mark is F.ROEVER alias Fryderyk Roever 1874-1875 in Warszaw. his trademark is a mermaid holding a sword. The rest I told you already

Re: Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:26 pm
by dognose
Hi Eleazar,

Please remember in future postings that only item is permitted per topic as per the Posting Requirements

Trev.

Re: Spoon and Fork Polish/Russian

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:28 pm
by eleazar
Im sorry it will not happen again, Thank you very much for your answers!