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I was wondering if somebody knew whether the hallmark 84 in a square frame plus J. & W. Tubben means that the spoons in question are Russian 800 or French plate or something entirely different. I am new to this forum, so I hope the link to the picture works!

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1 ... directlink

thank you!
Verrine

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Welcome to the forum Verrine,

Sounds like French plate, Russian it is not under any circumstances. No 800 silver in Russia ever.

Try to show a picture of the marks. Use this one http://tinypic.com/?t=postupload" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

thank you! the link for the picture in my first posting seems to work now - thanks to a nice administrator! so if I can bother you again?

thank you!
Verrine

The spoons are at sale in German eBay. Do not for a second believe that they are silver!

French plate is often confused with Russian ``84`` hallmark. The number indicates the thickness of silver plating in microns — you can find several different numbers in one cutlery set (thicker silver plating where more wear is expected — e.g. spoons, lower number in items with less wear expected — cake and sugar thongs).

Hi, ARGENTUM49.

One small question. How in 19 century measured a thickness of silver on spoons and forks to within microns? )))

I like an explanation from here more: http://www.925-1000.com/a_platenumbers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hehehe Dad, good questions. Nonetheless, the explanation in the 925-link you showed is correct and much better. I like it also. This micron thing is a current and modern measurement procedure.