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for help

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:32 am
by zlhiker
in the bottle of a cup,some marks is http://s1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa343/zlhiker/, please help me :1,the mark is ture ,2,mean-1735 london ?thanks .

http://s1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... aioji3.jpg

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Re: for help

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:43 am
by JBA
Correct. I believe the maker to be Joseph Mumford. John Montgomery has a very similar punch, but less pronounced Serifs, so I think Mumford is a closer bet.

Re: for help

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:20 am
by zlhiker
thanks ,butcould you tell me about Joseph Mumford. for expample: which year did he/she register?

Re: for help

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:37 am
by nigel le sueur
First mark entered 20th November 1711 as a smallworker, entered two furthur marks on the same register on the 27th july 1720, presumably from the same address Field Lane
That is all l have maybe somebody else has more info, l could find nothing in "Heals" all info from" Grimwades"
Regards
Nigel

Re: for help

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:16 am
by SirWatkynBassett
Hello,

Gentleman, let us take some time to consider some other options.

Joseph Mumford was quite possibly dead by the time this bottle cap was assayed. The forum has some detail of his likely demise in 1724 or 1727, this is to be seen at: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 74&t=25750" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A close inspection of the "IM" reveals the possibility of further detail above the letters, and perhaps also the exsistance of a pellet between the letters.

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Bearing in mind this possible extra detail, take a look at the mark of James Manners, noted by Arthur Grimwade and recorded as No. 1515. It was registered in 1734.

Bassett

Re: for help

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:44 pm
by JBA
Excellent correction. You're absolutely correct. Didn't see the faint impression of the pellet above from the original picture, but in your enlargement it is quite clear.

Re: for help

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:11 pm
by zlhiker
thanks a lot ,everyone .