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Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:29 pm
by pdx57
Hello Everyone!
Wondering if anyone could identify this piece. It's a small pitcher standing 3.25" in height, weighing 126 grams, gilded inside and with a repousse design. The only mark on the bottom is a hammer mark preceded by the letter A and followed by the letter C. I carefully checked the rim and the design itself for other hallmarks and none found. Any help in determining origin would be greatly appreciated.
Carlos
Re: Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:00 pm
by dognose
Hi Carlos,
I'll move your post to the American forum to see if we have any joy there.
Trev.
Re: Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:04 pm
by dragonflywink
Trev - I'm having a hard time seeing this piece as American coin, moving it to 'Other Countries', hoping for some fresh eyes...
~Cheryl
Re: Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:28 pm
by Bahner
... just wondering whether this could be Dutch. Regards, Bahner
Re: Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:18 am
by oel
Hi, checked Dutch makers' mark after 1813, no match.
Oel.
Re: Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:04 am
by nbhatt
Could it have something to do with St Malo, France
http://www.925-1000.com/Ffrench_townmarks_06.html? However, it looks more like a maker mark to me...
Re: Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:24 am
by dognose
Is it possible that this is a American revivalist piece in the Dutch style?
The mark has been nagging away at me, then I realised the similarity to the mark of Harry Spur Whitbeck which is stylisticly the same. See:
http://www.925-1000.com/M_whitbeck.html
Just thoughts!
Trev.
Re: Possible Hanau pitcher, unknown mark
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:57 pm
by dragonflywink
There was a good bit of Dutch 'historical' silver (along with Hanau) that was retailed in the U.S. from the late 19th century, and there was also wide American production of mostly silverplate 'Dutch silver reproductions' (along with the ubiquitous 'Sheffield reproductions') in the 1910s-20s. Some time ago, found mention in a 1919 travel guide, of "fraudulent antique Dutch silver" supposedly manufactured in New Jersey - but suspect that if true, it would have more likely been marked with something akin to the marks found on the Dutch and German pieces. This mark strikes me as one that could have been used by a maker from any number of places, with the hammer being a tool universally used in the trade - do suspect, if American-made, it would have dated from the late 19th-early 20th century and most likely been marked as 'Sterling'. Does seem to be a mystery at this point...
~Cheryl
1919 excerpt:
Similar 'hammer' mark used by Sheffield cutlery manufacturer William Gregory & Sons: