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Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:48 pm
by neurorocker
This is an unusual spoon that I believe is German. It seems to have a 12 L (loth) mark, city mark of running stag, and a maker mark. Can anyone provide additional details?
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Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:16 pm
by neurorocker
I just realized perhaps what I thought was a stag is the stallion from the Stuttgart city mark. I can't be sure.

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:55 am
by Theoderich
this is a typical Romania spoon.

but I do not know the town. there is a town with a stag in city ​​coat of arms
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looking this link
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 24&t=34117

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:16 am
by neurorocker
Many thanks. I have not come across this type of silver before. Perhaps the moderators will move to the appropriate forum.

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:32 am
by neurorocker
The city you referred to is Bacău, Romania that has the stag in the coat-of-arms. If anyone recognizes the silversmith CJ, it would be useful to have that information here. I suspect this spoon is about 1830. Do others agree? Thanks again.

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:35 pm
by huszas76
Hello!
We have some earlier examples for this type of spoons, but no one could identified makers from Romania yet in the site. So we just supposing, that this are from Romania.
I'm afraid, temporarily you wont't get any more usable answer.
Best Regards!
Krisztián

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:53 pm
by huszas76
Hello Everyone!
Well, here is another evidence, this type of spoons are from Romania:
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This mark with the fishes is from Romania for the 750 fineness between 1906-1926.
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Unfortunatly (and certainly) I didn't know this master, Radivon.
If anyone have any source for the roumanian makers or the silversmiths of Romania, please share with us!
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:50 pm
by neurorocker
I love the 'dolphin' hallmark. Pretty great piece!

Nate

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 4:42 am
by martako
I found some information on "Radivon". Here it is:

One other brand they (WMF-Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik) acquired was Radivon Bucarest, a company founded by medalist Theodor Radivon, producing identical art nouveau metal wares under the WMF name with the same model numbers.
huszas76 wrote:Hello Everyone!
Well, here is another evidence, this type of spoons are from Romania:
Image
This mark with the fishes is from Romania for the 750 fineness between 1906-1926.
Image
Unfortunatly (and certainly) I didn't know this master, Radivon.
If anyone have any source for the roumanian makers or the silversmiths of Romania, please share with us!
Best regards!
Krisztián

Re: Interesting Spoon, Possibly German

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 2:17 am
by Bahner
Hello, the fact that the name of Radivon can be found on WMF objects should not be overestimated. In no way does it imply that Radivon was the actual maker. The WMF gave much of their stuff to foreign salers as in most countries the WMF did not bother to set up its own factories or its own distribution channels. They allowed selected dealers to sell their goods exclusively in that respective country and add the name of the seller to it. Regards, Bahner