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Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spoons
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:22 pm
by user701
I am trying to ID the maker of a couple of spoons and also the date letter is not easy to decipher due to the marks being bottom struck, it could be an S possibly for either 1675 or 1695 (crowned leopard present for London), but I am probably incorrect and way out on the date.
The makers mark looks like T.C or T.G
Many thanks for any help in advance.
Re: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spo
Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:58 pm
by agphile
The stems look like those of 18th century spoons, I assume Hanoverian, so I would suggest 1773 and Thomas Chawner, a known and prolific spoonmaker.
Re: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spo
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:13 am
by user701
Thanks for that, I was 99% doubtful that they were 17th century.
Thats the trouble with bottom struck spoons, the date letter can be so distorted it is hard to decipher, I was wondering, after looking again, if it was a distorted date letter a for 1776 rather than an s
The spoons are actually old English pattern, I should have mentioned that previously, apologies.
Re: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spo
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:29 pm
by agphile
On the basis of the photos I would probably go for “s”, but you have the advantage of seeing the spoons “in the flesh”. Either way, Old English fits in nicely with the 1770s by which time Hanoverian was on its way out as far as English flatware is concerned.
You were right to feel very tentative about an earlier date. The reason I commented on the stem shape in my earlier post was that in 1675 and 1695 the Trefid pattern held sway with it broader, flat stem on which the marks did not suffer the squashing found on later spoons as a result of tidying up the shape and finishing the spoons after they had been marked.
Re: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spo
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:11 pm
by user701
Thank you for your reply and help agphile, much appreciated.