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Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:12 pm
by abv2003
Greetings. Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork. Thank you.
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Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:28 pm
by dognose
Hi,
It'll need confirmation, but likely the mark of Prudent Quitte, Rue Notre-Dame-de-Nazareth 42, Paris. The mark was registered on the 15th November 1882.
Trev.
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:01 pm
by Francais
I think it is Pierre François Queillé, that is according to a French site, the contributor seems to know what he is talking about. The symbol is an antique oar, Quitte mark is a revolver. According to this site the Queillé family supplied silver flatware for the firms of Froment-Meurice and Odiot.
This is all too late for my personal knowledge, but I give it for what it is worth.
Maurice
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:41 pm
by abv2003
dognose wrote:Hi,
It'll need confirmation, but likely the mark of Prudent Quitte, Rue Notre-Dame-de-Nazareth 42, Paris. The mark was registered on the 15th November 1882.
Trev.
Many thanks for your help.
Regards
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:56 pm
by dognose
Hi,
Please wait for confirmation. Maurice is far, far better acquainted with French marking than me.
Trev.
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:16 pm
by JayT
Agree that this is the mark of Queillé. See below for more posts on this maker with additional images of the mark.
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... lle#p47986
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33528
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:18 am
by dognose
Thanks JayT. I could have sworn that I could see a revolver there :)
Trev.
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:40 am
by JayT
Just a wild shot, eh?
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:39 am
by amena
Maybe oar has different meanings?
I can not see an oar (used to row or steer a boat) in this image.
![Image](https://www.925-1000.com/pics/Ximg.jpg)
amena
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:09 pm
by Francais
I guess the easy answer is beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Antique oars are basically a stick with a blade attached. In this case the blade is rather like a triangle, and is at the top, what hangs down is the stick. Like most words in French there is more than one translation, but in this case I see an oar quite plainly. Sometimes the symbols are more like a Rohrschach test, but having had a few courses in psychology, I would recommend you say you see an oar, rather than a revolver.
Sorry Trev,
Maurice
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:00 pm
by amena
Not to sound picky.
I wandered through 925, and I found this mark attributed to Pierre Queillé (see " French Butter Knives - Maker's Mark different?"
by Dendriet )
This one may seem like an oar to me, (or a spade), but it is very different.
I am a bit 'confused
![Image](https://www.925-1000.com/pics/Ximg.jpg)
Amena
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:12 pm
by Francais
The family used the same mark for generations, so some variation is to be expected.
Both marks look more like an oar than a revolver.
Maurice
Re: Help identify the manufacturer of the French fork
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:15 pm
by JayT
I have handled or owned many dozen flatware items by Queillé. There is no question that this is the firm’s mark. As Francais says, the mark changed and evolved over the century of the firm’s existence.
The mark of Quitte with a revolver as a device is not a match at all, as Quitte was a manufacturing jeweller (
fabricant bijoutier), not a flatware maker.
See
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33528