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Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:25 am
by touqeer
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:53 am
by dognose
Hi,
They're Italian.
The mark in the middle is the Cross of Saints Maurice & Lazarus used 1824-1873 by the Kingdom of Piedmont & Sardinia. It denotes the second standard of 800/1000 silver.
Hopefully someone better versed in Italian marks can recognise the other marks.
Trev.
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:54 am
by amena
Hi touqeer
The upper one seems the horse's head of Novara, but I don't recognize the silvermith.
Can you read for certain the letters beside the tower?
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:14 am
by WarrenKundis
Good day all,
Just a note, there appears to be the number 21 or 27 on the base of the horse's neck. Is that a year code Amena? The makers mark; is that an G or C on the left and an R on the right? There also appears to be a single numeral above the tower. 4?
Warren
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:26 am
by touqeer
no cannot read it because not so good readable.....
but any how thanks for the info
i thought it is english but came out italian
Thanks all
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:31 am
by touqeer
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:40 am
by amena
To me it looks like a flag on the tower, not a number.
In my knowledge, they did not use datanumber in those years, however, 21 (1821) would not be possible because the mark came into use in 1824.
Touqeer,who can watch with a loupe all the 4 marks, can clarify if there are numbers or not.
However, I'm very intrigued by the coat. It seems to me a prince crown. Who can he be?
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:17 am
by Francais
There was a Carlo Rossini in Novara in 1824 the mark shown is a C then a tower with a flag on top and an R.
Unfortunately the mark shown and a drawing of an alternate mark are clearly not the same mark.
However considering the similarities, I would say this is an alternate mark for Rossini.
Maurice
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:23 am
by WarrenKundis
Amena,
Your question on the coat of arms prompted a search. King Charles Felix ruled from 1821-31. Is that a C with intertwined Fs ?
W
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:44 am
by amena
What Francais suggests it is very likely, provided that the letters are C and R
Re: Help identifying mark 18th century ??
Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:52 am
by amena
Hi Warren
The Savoia had their own coat of arms, and then I do not think that they would order the cutlery in Novara.
Amena
