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help with country and maker please?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:51 am
by david8
Hi, can anyone help identify which country these hallmarks on a silver liquor set stamped 800 on each piece with initials? thanks

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Re: help with country and maker please?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 9:51 am
by Ubaranda
I believe it's Yogya Silver. See here http://www.925-1000.com/a_yogya.html
and here http://www.djokja.nl/djokja.html

Best regards. Alex.

Re: help with country and maker please?

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2015 3:18 am
by david8
Hi Alex, thanks for your help, regards David

Re: help with country and maker please?

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:32 am
by SteveDWollongong
Hi David,

You probably thought you had an outcome and here I am about to question it...

Although I don't offer a positive country of origin, I strongly believe that your pieces are not Yogya silver as suggested. Sorry Alex.

I have quite a number of pieces of Yogya silver myself and they are easily recognisable. The whole design basis of Yogya silver is that it draws on elements of nature, native to the country (now Indonesia). If you look at the reference sites supplied by Alex you will note that the designs follow patterns of plant life (primarily stylised lotus flowers) and birds (peacocks), with thin rope borders. Note also that flat areas are planished(a textured finish left by a planishing hammer). None of your pieces contain these elements.

The thing in common your pieces have with Yogya silver is the format of the marks. As you can see yours and Yogya silver all have an 800 stamp plus what appear to be initial makers marks only.

My feeling is that they may be Italian, and made prior to 1934. The marks could also fit this scenario, but without a definite country/town identifier, it is very difficult to be certain. I know there are some Italian silver experts floating about this forum who may be able to offer an insight?

Anyway, have a look at the 1872 - 1933 period in the link below and see what you think.

http://www.925-1000.com/Fitalian_marks_01.html


Cheers,
Steve

Re: help with country and maker please?

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:23 am
by david8
Hi Steve, thanks for your input, its very difficult with just the 800 and initials, hopefully someone else can confirm yours or Alex opinions on the matter, regards David