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crown on silver french pot
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:05 pm
by david8
hi, can anyone help with this little silver pot, is this the crown of a french earl or duke? thanks
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:04 pm
by JayT
Your image looks blurry on my monitor. If there are 5 leaves then this might be the coronet of a French duke. France did not have earls.
Is this item marked for French silver, or is it your assumption that it is French because of the fleur-de-lys on the body of the item?
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:06 am
by AG2012
Is it made in France and when? Can we see the marks?
Regards
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:43 am
by david8
hi, i have added clearer pictures, it isnt hallmarked but tests for silver. i assumed it was french and not sure if its a pill box or vinaigrette missing the grill. just would like to know what the n.d means and where from. thanks
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:00 am
by oel
Hi,
Please show us the back of the case and tell us the dimensions, could it be a vesta case?
Oel.
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:13 am
by david8
hi, i dont believe it to be a vesta case, as there is no scratch pad, there was a small piece of cotton wool inside. it is 3.9cms in height and 1.5cms diameter. but im more interested in the marks on the lid. thanks
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:20 am
by oel
Thanks not clearly French, no(hall)marks and could be silver plated. Your thread has been moved to the Family Crest topics for assistance.
Oel.
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 3:42 pm
by nobilityhouse
It is a souvenir of France. I have seen the same symbol on two different brooches and a napkin ring. Unfortunately, nobody knew what the initials stood for. I have not been able to solve the mystery, either. Kind regards.
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:27 pm
by nobilityhouse
Found it! The problem was thinking it was an anchor below the crown, but it is an L and it's reverse, as it is used as a cipher for artistic balance. The symbol is for the society known as ''Hospitalité Notre Dame de Lourdes" (Hospitality of Our Lady of Lourdes). It is a volunteer organization founded in 1885 whose mission is to welcome pilgrims at the various sanctuaries of Lourdes. They do have a website. Kind regards.
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:58 pm
by dognose
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:54 pm
by nobilityhouse
Thank you. Could not have done it without Google Translate from the French blogs. Happy New Year everyone!
Re: crown on silver french pot
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 3:36 am
by david8
Thank you for your help. very much appreciated. happy new year
