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Can't find anything about these
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:19 pm
by n2rare
Any help is greatly appreciated
Re: Can't find anything about these
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:26 pm
by dognose
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
We will need much clearer images of the marks.
Trev.
Re: Can't find anything about these
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:46 am
by Qrt.S
Yes sharper pictures pictures please but clean the marks before taking the photo. Nonetheless, what we can tell as for now is: Soviet Union, Leningrad most likely after 1979 but before 1992. Silver fineness 875/1000. Name of the factory is "Русские самоцветы" i.a. "Russian gems". I retain the right to amendments when better and sharper pictures are shown. Now it is like "groping in the dark".
Re: Can't find anything about these
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:44 pm
by Dad
Qrt.S wrote:.... Soviet Union, Leningrad most likely after 1979 but before 1992. Silver fineness 875/1000. Name of the factory is "Русские самоцветы" i.a. "Russian gems"....
Hi, Qrt.S
You are right. It's "Русские самоцветы".
But, it isn't USSR product. Since 2001 in maker punch the year of production is the letter of alphabet.
"А" -2001, "Б" - 2002 ....
"Г" - 2004 .....
It' the first letter. The second letter is the symbol assay office.
"Л" - The North-West Assay Inspection (St.-Petersburg)
In assay punch - "new kokoshnik" + 925 or 875 fineness..
Re: Can't find anything about these
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:58 pm
by Qrt.S
OK, thanks Dad, I didn't know that. The product is too new for me ;-))))))). I like more antiquities
Re: Can't find anything about these
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:31 pm
by n2rare
WOW- You guys are good!!! lol. But I can't get my cam to get closer pics- so I drew them. I not only suck at takin pics- I suck at drawing also- sorry... The thing between the 925 and the A is like a knight's helmet. Really though- I am ecstatic and amazed with the info you have already provided. Thank you so much.

Re: Can't find anything about these
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:19 am
by Qrt.S
Excellent drawings :-))))))) Anyway, one amendment, the fineness is not 875 but 925/1000 in other words, sterling silver. The mark with the woman's head is called kokoshnik and it it the official Russian hallmark for silver.
Re: Can't find anything about these
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:06 am
by AG2012

New laser Kokoshnik of central Moscow assay office.
Letter identification of Russian regions (many towns had their mark in Imperial Russia).
В Kostroma, Yaroslavl,Ivanovskaya
Г Nizhny Novgorod,Tatarstan,Kirovsk,Penza
Я East Siberia (Krasnoyarsk, Irkutsk)
Ю Far East (Khabarovsk,Magadan)
К Don region (Ingushetia,North Osetia,Astrahan,Volgograd,Rostov,Krasnodar, Stavropol)
Ж Baikal
Ф Western (Kaliningrad)
Н West Siberian (Novosibirsk,Omsk)
П Ufa,Orenburg
Б Moscow region (Подмосковље)
З Dagestan
Д Yakutiya
А Northern (Arkhangelsk, Veliky Ustyug)
Л North West (St. Petersburg,Murmansk,Karelia)
С Urals (Yekaterinburg, Perm, Sverdlovsk)
М Central (Moscow)