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William Comyns mark together with «H. GREAVES NEW ST BIRMINCHAM» engraving ????

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:40 am
by MSBR
Dear all! Maybe somebody could help me to deal with marks? I have the nut dish marked as William Comyns (London). But it has the graving «H. GREAVES NEW ST BIRMINCHAM» also. What could that mean?

And I am not sure about William Comyns to be honest. The mark is very close to William Comyns&Sons, but does not have any dot between letters, or any traces of dot. Maybe this is the mark of another maker ?

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Re: William Comyns mark together with «H. GREAVES NEW ST BIRMINCHAM» engraving ????

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:26 am
by silvermakersmarks
Greaves is the retailer (the shop where the dish was sold) and that is definitely a mark of William Comyns & Sons. Variants of marks are not uncommon and the shape of the punch is very distinctive.

Phil

Re: William Comyns mark together with «H. GREAVES NEW ST BIRMINCHAM» engraving ????

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:32 pm
by dognose
Hi,

The retailer was Henry Greaves, later Henry Greaves Ltd. The firm registered their marks with the London Assay Office.

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H. Greaves - Birmingham - 1877

Trev.

Re: William Comyns mark together with «H. GREAVES NEW ST BIRMINCHAM» engraving ????

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:37 am
by MSBR
Phil, Trev, thank you! I didn't know that H. GREAVES was the retailer, I believed that it was a silversmith.
Phil, a special thank for the clarification about the WC mark

Maria

Re: William Comyns mark together with «H. GREAVES NEW ST BIRMINCHAM» engraving ????

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:28 am
by doublestruck
Supplier vs Retailer.

You may find there are many more examples and discoveries of the above.