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Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:37 am
by Beccamb
Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:41 am
by oel
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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:52 am
by Beccamb
Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:52 pm
by dognose
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
C.F. Rumpp & Sons.
C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1910
Trev.
Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:28 am
by Beccamb
Thanks, Trev!
So I think this was a PA railroad flask but the leather is gone. Thanks!!
Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:58 am
by Charley3736
Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:37 am
by dognose
Hi,
Welcome to the Forum.
To my knowledge the Roger's version of the mark was only used on flatware.
C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1903
C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1908
Trev.
Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:49 am
by silverly
From the USPTO site:
Word Mark RUMPP
Goods and Services (EXPIRED) IC 018. US 003. G & S: BILLFOLDS, LETTER CASES, TOILET CASES, PHOTO CASES, PASS CASES, CARD CASES, AND KEY CASES. FIRST USE: 19450301. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19450301
Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 26.15.27 - Keystones
Serial Number 72240085
Filing Date March 3, 1966
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0831667
Registration Date July 11, 1967
Owner (REGISTRANT) EVANS-ARISTOCRAT INDUSTRIES, INC. CORPORATION NEW JERSEY 400-416 TRUMBULL ST. ELIZABETH NEW JERSEY
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15.
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Not the exact mark we see on the flask, but it does show that Rumpp officially used an "R" in a keystone as part of their trademark.
Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:06 pm
by Traintime
Beccamb wrote:Thanks, Trev!
So I think this was a PA railroad flask but the leather is gone. Thanks!!
The Pennsylvania Railroad was not alone in using the keystone...many firms employed the "Keystone State" emblem to show where they were based. PRR did employ a keystone without any letters at times, but if letters are present they should be "PRR" or "PC" (for the Pennsylvania Company, parent holding firm for the various corporate entities). Other lines controlled by the firm in earlier times had other marks like a star..it's complicated.