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Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:26 am
by Suzanap
Hi, need help with identifying hallmark on silverware, couldnt find the coding on any international indexing.
The 4 numbers on the spoon seem to be a series, and is different from one item in the set to another (e.g: spoons run from 1146 to 1155, tea spoons are 2735 to 2742, etc)
Couldnt upload the photos...all items have a crown in a triangle mark, followed by 4 digits and then B4.

Thanks!

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:40 am
by dognose
Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Your question cannot be answered without the required images. The below should help you:

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and: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=42199

http://www.postimg.com is recommended. Embedded images get a far greater response than just posting links.

Remember to use the 'Preview' button before submitting your post.

Trev.

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:51 am
by Suzanap
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Here are the pictures in question.

Thanks again!

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:06 am
by AG2012
Hi,
It appears to be a Romanian mark for .800 silver, not silver plate.
The marks have been discussed here:
http://925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34902
Numbers are not relevant (factory serial numbers, production line etc.).
Best wishes

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:07 am
by dognose
Hi,

This topic shows the importance of providing images.

From what I can see, these are Romanian. See: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 524#p90524

Can you provide a sharper, larger close-up of the marks? Someone better qualified in Romanian marks may be able to tell us more.

Trev.

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:21 am
by Suzanap
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Hope this is a better picture, thank you for the help!

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:25 am
by dognose
Hi Suzanap,

That's certainly a better image of the 'B4' mark. Can you select the best example of the 'Crown' mark, and capture an image of that?

Trev.

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:48 am
by Suzanap
Image

This is the clearest one, hope it helps.

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:04 am
by dognose
That's great. We can clearly see the the two strokes that indicate a fineness of 800/1000 silver, in use 1937-1949, confirming AG2012's thoughts:

Image

Can you make out the letter below the crown?

Trev.

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:09 am
by Suzanap
Looks like a P to me

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:14 am
by dognose
Let's hope someone can add further information.

Trev.

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:03 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Prior to 1949 letter A was used for the capital Bucharest, letter L was attributed to Muntenia province, and branch assay offices C, N, O and P have not been identified. From 1949-1955 two digit number replaced letters (10 for Bucharest). Currently, there are 21 assay offices, but main assay office cannot be accessed for any further information.
In conclusion, beside 800/1000 silver mark, in use 1937-1949, that`s all we can tell for the time being.
Unlike Czech and Hungarian assay offices with excellent archives of historic marks, Romanian assay office cannot be accessed, even in their language.
Best regards

Re: Please help identify

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:23 am
by Suzanap
Thank you, all the info is really helpful!