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Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:22 am
by lmallier
Hello,
could this be swiss?
Could not find any suitable answer on this one...
X
X
Many thanks in advance.
Louis.
Re: Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:16 am
by Dendriet
ICU = John Christopher Ultzen I
Country: Netherlands
Place: Leiden
Period: 1735 - 1776
Regards
Dendriet
Re: Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:43 am
by AG2012
Hi,
For the script-letter ``I``take a look here (scroll down):
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028
Regards
Re: Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:46 am
by lmallier
Thanks a lot Dendriet!
AG2012, thanks! But I can not find this exact script letter L in order to date it properly.
Re: Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:04 pm
by Dendriet
Sorry lmallier,
I forgot to mention that the year letter I is from 1743.
Regards
Dendriet
Re: Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:24 pm
by oel
Hi Imallier,
The coat of arms/crest of Leiden consists of 2 crossed keys; therefore they are an often seen symbol in Leiden. The keys are the symbol of the patron of the city Saint Petrus. Crossed keys Leiden silver 1st standard or ‘grote keur’ 934/000. Leiden first mentioned in 1661 the single key with combined year letter for 2nd standard silver or ‘kleine keur’ 833/000. The year letter could be above, next and under the key.
I believe the year letter to be the script t for Leiden 1753.
Peter
Re: Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:53 pm
by Dendriet
Hi Peter
In this alphabet, there is only 25 of the 26 used.
The letter I and J stands for one letter.
Each alphabet has a different type of letter.
There are no examples in the book of the letter I / J or T
As a basis point I chose the letter F who portrayed
As you can see they have opted for a straight line and assume that this was supposed to be the case with the letter T
It therefore seemed logical to me that the letter I / J it was departing.
I noticed in your note some caution.
But I am very flexible and pliable mood today.
I give you the benefit of the doubt :))))))
Regards
Dendriet
Re: Need help ID this marrow scoop
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:07 pm
by lmallier
Thanks Dendriet and Peter.
I'll let you challenge yourselves between I and T but I feel it is a I ;-)
Cheers.