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Fish Slice

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:21 pm
by dimi66
Hello,

Can anybody help to identify the marks "PH" and "10"? I am roaming around Bergen, Tønder, and -less probable - Ulm.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:51 pm
by dimi66
This should be better.

Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 1:39 am
by moonshine
Brazil perhaps?

Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 2:49 am
by Theoderich
i think it is about from 1770-90

10 Loth war usual in thuringia or west-saxony

Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:59 pm
by dimi66
Thank you both,
Moonshine and Theoderich,

for your hints on where the slice could come from. I am sorry to say that I couldn't get any further. In case of a provenance from Thuringia or Saxony the informations on silversmiths in this area for me are hard to find. A Brazilian provenance was a surprising possibility from which I learnt that in this case the "10" meant ten dinheiros (10/12), that's 833/1000, in contrast to ten loth (10/16), that's 625/1000. But the missing crown mark and no "PH" find stopped deeper insight.
In the Rabinovitch book on silver servers I saw that the slice design was popular in Germany and Danmark (what doesn' exclude additional provenances) from 1770 to 1790. Good guesstimate Theoderich!

So thanks again

Yours

Dimi

Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:48 pm
by Theoderich
Hi Dimi


Can you determine the fineness? Make the test, whether it is 10/12 or 10/16.

Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:07 am
by dimi66
Hi Theoderich,
unfortunately I don't know how.

Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:32 am
by AG2012
Hi,
Jewelers have electronic testers. It takes a couple of minutes. Acid test is not reliable here.
10 Loth = 625/1,000
10 dinero/dinheiro = 833.3/1,000.

Re: Fish Slice

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 1:56 pm
by dimi66
Thanks, I'll try.