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Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:22 am
by SilverK
Hi,

Could anybody advise who the maker was of this CCCP shot cup and confirm where, and approximately when, it was assayed? Given the hammer and sickle inside a 5-pointed star, this must have been assayed post May 1958 and with the atomic or space orbit pattern, I would hazard a guess that it was made either in the very late 50s or early 60s. The star is preceded by what looks to me like the number '3', but which I think is Ќ for Tallin, the assay city for this piece.

As always, any response is very welcome.

Regards,

silverk.

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Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:37 am
by dognose
Hi SilverK,

See: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 81&p=37617

and: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 3&p=110010

I've no idea if it is 1961 or 1971, hopefully someone will explain how the year marking works.

Trev.

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:53 am
by SilverK
Thanks for the links, Trev. I didn't realize the other mark was date-related. If this is 1971 and the engraving is space-related, then this wasn't a good year for the Soviet space programme (the crew was killed in Salyut 1), and it's rather close to America's success in 1969. 1961 was a rather better time!

All the best,

silverk.

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 1:15 pm
by Qrt.S
The Soviet year marking is at the same time complicated but as well simple when you understand the system. Try this thread where it is somehow explained 9 year ago:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... iod#p38380

I don't know why there are are strange characters here and there in the input.Anyway, the manufacturing year for your "rjumka" (vodka cup) is 1971

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:01 pm
by AG2012
Letter in Cyrillic З (Z) was assigned to Dagestan,North Caucasus region.
This is full mark of Dagestan Art Factory,
Regards

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Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:24 pm
by Qrt.S
Come'on AG2012. You know very well the difference between Cyrillic З and Э for Tallinn (Estonia).
Silverk wrote:
SilverK wrote:....what looks to me like the number '3'

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:49 pm
by SilverK
Gents,

Thanks QRT.s for the date. 1971 it is, then and Trev was right.

But I'm confused about the '3'. Is this for Tallin or Dagestan?

Regards,

Silverk.

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:56 pm
by AG2012
Таллинская (Таллин) Э
Северо-Кавказская (Прикаспийская,Махачкала) З

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:17 pm
by Goldstein
Hi -

here the marks and years. Notice the letter for Tallinn....

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Regards
Goldstein

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:32 am
by dognose
Hi Goldstein,

Great reference, thank you.

Trev.

Re: Who was the maker of this modern shot cup?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:39 am
by SilverK
Hi all,

That's absolutely clear now, thanks. The examples set against the dates are particularly useful and clear. A superb way of presenting the information.

Regards,

Silverk.