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Kiddush Cup

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:34 am
by DBinSV
In case it helps to know, the height of the cup is 2.125 inches/almost 5.5 cm. The diameter at the top is 1.75 inches/4.5 cm. The diameter at the base is almost 1.25 inches/3 cm.

In addition to the marks on the underside, I am also interested in learning the meaning of the mark below the rim, as depicted in the photos. (I tried using this site’s reference pages, which are extremely informative, but have been unable on my own to figure things out entirely.)

Thank you.

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Re: Kiddush Cup

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:22 pm
by Goldstein
Hi DBinSV -

more a guess:

Kasan 185?
assayer: Surovtsov, Wasilij M. 1850-1862

Regards
Goldstein

Re: Kiddush Cup

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:26 pm
by AG2012
Hi,
For Russian marks see here:
http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia.html

The mark bellow the rim looks like ``84`` struck twice. Russian 84 zolotniki standard is 875.
All marks are very badly struck.The assayer`s mark BC (VS) for 1857.Then ``84`` again but town mark far right is beyond recognition.
At 5 cm it`s a vodka cup.Beware of Judaica description elsewhere. Kiddush cups are supposed to have an inscription in Hebrew or at least something engraved to confirm it was used for wine (not vodka) by a Jewish family etc. But being lucrative, everything is described as ``Judaica``.
The cup is of average quality.
Hopefully assayer`s initials will be recognized and compared with what`s left of the town mark on the right.
Regards

Re: Kiddush Cup

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:18 am
by DBinSV
Many thanks for these very enlightening comments, which are most appreciated!

Re: Kiddush Cup

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:53 pm
by Dad
Hi.

It's trivial moscow cup