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Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:43 pm
by sophanome1
I've spent hours trying to figure out what this item it. It has russian silver hallmarks and a stag handle. The curved, chisel edge blade measures 2-7/8" long. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:57 pm
by AG2012
Hi,
I think this is home made fantasy knife.
Kokoshnik mark (enlarged here) is completely wrong and``88`` fineness .916 is absurd.
Let`s wait for more responses.
Regards
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:23 am
by amena
Excuse me if I ask for clarification, Russian silver is not really my field, but on this site
http://www.silvercollection.eu/russians ... lmark.html
there are some examples of Russian silver with fineness 88.
Are they fake?
The object could be a cigar cutter?
Thanks for the attention
Amena
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:23 am
by AG2012
There was 88 zolotniki fineness, mostly used by prominent silversmiths for the highest quality objects.
Being softer alloy than 84 I see no logic in using it for cutting edge of any kind.
Cannot figure out how the knife works and its purpose, but again, I find this kokoshnik mark wrong in many aspects.
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:38 am
by Qrt.S
I don't either know what it is used for, but if it is supposed to be a knife, it is useless. The "silver" is too soft. Moreover, I also share AG 2012's opinion, the marks are pure fantasy even if there are some similarities. They have, anyway, nothing to do with Russia
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:34 am
by Goldstein
Hi -
I think it was the first Russian boomerang. The owner wanted to throw it away - but it came always back....
another masterpiece - maybe from the same workshop:
?????
Long thought lost - recently reappeared ......
Regards
Goldstein
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:08 pm
by sophanome1
Thanks for the replies. As far as 88 silver being useless for a cutting edge, there are sterling bladed folding fruit knives. Maybe this could this be some type of specialized fruit knife?
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:25 pm
by dognose
Hi sophanome1,
Welcome to the Forum.
Does the handle fold, or is it in a fixed position?
Trev.
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:47 pm
by AG2012
Hello again,
Fineness ``88`` is not the main issue here.Its advantage was better casting properties (relief details) and was mostly used for exquisite objects.
Unfortunately,whatever the purpose of this strange object (with serrated edges), marks have nothing to do with Imperial Russian marks.
Best wishes
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:42 pm
by sophanome1
No it does not fold. This is the other side.
Re: Russian Object Identification Curved Knife
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 4:24 am
by Goldstein
Hi -
I bet it was sold as "cirgumsision tool"......
Regards
Goldstein
