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Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:07 am
by mslittlefoot
Hello. I hope I am in the right section. I am looking for information on the marks on this antique silver utensil. I have a very large set of flatware that has been in my family and I am trying to determine where this comes from, or any information. It says " J&H.C. Walter" and then it has marks that look like date marks, assay marks etc., but what I see online says it is not British, but I also can't find anything that is an H in a circle. I searched the database for "Walter" "J&H" and combinations to see if I can at least find the maker, but no luck. The utensil is also inscribed with a family name, so I assume that it is from sometime in 1800s. Thank you for any information!

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Re: Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:18 pm
by dognose
Hi,

See Hotchkiss & Schreuder at: http://www.925-1000.com/americansilver_H3.html

Trev.

Re: Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:25 pm
by dognose
And here's the retailer:

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J. & H.C. Walter - Richfield Springs, Otsego Co., N.Y. - 1872

Trev.

Re: Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:20 pm
by silverly
The retailers were Jacob and Horace C Walter who were born in Montgomery and Otsego New York in 1788 and 1828 respectively.

Re: Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:02 am
by AG2012
Hi,
There is flatware by this maker marked ‚‚coin‚‚ or ‚‚sterling‚‚
So, in this case it is solid silver without the standard being specifically indicated ?

Re: Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:30 pm
by Traintime
Apparently the star mark is not part of the maker mark, so would this not be an accepted symbol for approximate coin quality short of sterling standard?

Re: Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:46 pm
by Traintime
Should not affect the dating of this piece, but, my Rainwater (3rd ed.) indicates A.B. Schreuder continued to work alone after 1871 but still using the H.&S. mark. Company sold c.1895-6.

Re: Country of Orgin and Date Help on Flatware

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:42 pm
by mslittlefoot
Thank you for all of this information. I am impressed that you all found out so much information. I wasn't getting anywhere with the H&S I thought they were some type of mark other than the brand and didn't even realize that a retailer would put their name on silverware. Learning so much. I appreciate it!