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miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:45 am
by NDemidov
Dear specialists!
I ask your help ...
Yesterday I bought a nice little thing - a miniature cup holder 800.
Now I can not provide quality photos. perhaps tonight.
But, the decoration (the putti) and all the hallmarks completely correspond to one thing that I found on the Internet:
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CR under the crown, 800, crown (?), halbmond
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I will be grateful for any help in determining the year, the country of production and the name of the master.
With best wishes from Belarus, Nikita Demidov
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:32 am
by oel
Hi welcome to the orum
See Hanau silver:
https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html
If GR under crown the maker's mark could be for Georg Roth & Co
If CR under crown it is to me unknown German maker.
Best,
Peter
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:46 am
by NDemidov
I thank you for the answer.
But, the letters under the crown - definitely: СR
Best regards, N.
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:37 am
by NDemidov
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:09 am
by NDemidov
Good afternoon, dear experts!
I still hope for your help in determining the "
maker's mark" ...
However, a
new question has appeared.
Recently, at one of the online auctions (French?) was presented "miniature snuffbox":
rare petite tabatière du XIX° représentant des puttis dansant dans un décors de ruine romaine, à droite la mer avec une voile au fond, des montagnes font penser au Vésuve
(les poinçons sont pourtant autrichiens)
le tout forme une sorte de livre miniature
interieur vermeillé ;bon état
poids 26 gm taille 4,6 x3 x1,3 cm
"with the naked eye" you can see that
it is made using the same matrix as my cup holder (
!)
However, on the snuffbox
another maker's mark?
*Unfortunately, in the presented photos, it is not clearly visible. But it seems to me that the maker's mark is another.
Perhaps one master "purchased" the matrix from another master? But - it seems strange to me ...
What do respected experts think about this?
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With thanks and best regards from Belarus, Nikita
![Image](http://www.picshare.ru/uploads/190121/L8041I68bS.jpg)
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:44 am
by NDemidov
It is also curious that on 3 (!) products
the same "defects" in the hallmark 800
![Image](http://www.picshare.ru/uploads/190121/vQYY5M52Ft.jpg)
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:33 am
by oel
Hi Nikita,
The style and marks points to pseudo marks and likely German/Hanau style
Best,
Peter.
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:51 am
by NDemidov
Yes, quite right!
However, the maker's mark (on the сup holder and tea strainer) is quite clear:
CR under the crown
Surely - this is the original initials of the master ?!
Best regards, Nikita
Re: miniature cup holder silver 800
Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 1:45 pm
by NDemidov
Good evening, dear specialists!
Is there any new information about this master ?
CR under the crown
Best regards, Nikita