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Rare Petrograd marking

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:14 am
by Juke
Hi!

Found a set of spoons marked just after the revolution in 1917 with the new added 'Petrograd' mark after the city of St.Petersburg had changed the name by the new communist rule. I believe the new mark was just added to the previous rule of marking by the communist authorities to ensure the change happend also in silver markings before they could plan for the new Sovjet marks to be used. The spoons are made by Egor Pankratshev.

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Regards,
Juke

Re: Rare Petrograd marking

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:10 am
by AG2012
Hi,
They are not considered post revolutionary.
The most interesting thing is that in the system of Russian assay marks according to the rules after 1908 and in no other regulatory document there is not a single mention of the type SP BURG or Petrograd, or especially Moscow.

They seem to be pure initiative of the maker and have nothing to do with the system of assay marking.

So it is absolutely logical to consider these marks as an expanded nominal marks.
Regards

Re: Rare Petrograd marking

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:35 am
by Juke
Checked the history so you are correct that the name was actually changed already by the imperial authorities so the assumption of the communist authorities was not correct. Would be interested to hear if there is any more information of the marking.

Re: Rare Petrograd marking

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:09 pm
by Goldstein
Hi Juke -

here another spoon from him, he sometimes marked his spoons next to his name with SP BURG.
He had a large spoon production and his spoons are very common.
Mind the spelling!

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Regards
Goldstein

Re: Rare Petrograd marking

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:24 pm
by Qrt.S
About 5 years ago there was a lively discussion about Egor Pankratjev and the mark SP.BURG etc....It is still a partly unsolved case.

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/search.ph ... Pankratjev