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Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:33 am
by Traintime
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:19 pm
by wev
A clean drive of the Brothers punch
and one showing the clipped terminal S from a broken punch
![Image](http://www.americansilversmiths.org/SalonImages/PlattBrothers6.jpg)
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:21 pm
by samtron76df
I think what you mean by "front tipped" & "back tipped" is that the end of the handle turns either up in front or down in back. Is that right? Does that signify anything dating wise? Did they do one style earlier than the other ? I've seen this on other spoons by other makers and have always wondered.
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:41 pm
by Traintime
This link lays out the forming of the "M" shape at the tip (terminal) of a hand constructed single-piece spoon. This is known as tipping with "tipped pattern" being one of the most basic designs in flatwares (Other names are used too...e.g. Olde English). As you can see in the photos, it is located on the reverse side (or back). The handle turned up or down is another issue.
https://www.925-1000.com/spoon.html
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:19 am
by samtron76df
Thanks for the link and info. Did they do one style before the other ?
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:15 am
by Traintime
There are a number of spoon constructionists who have dropped in and leave useful old threads for your research. Using the way back machine (the search function), Tom left an interesting answer regarding Duhme near the end of this 2007 query:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6344&hilit=tipped+handle
Trev, Cheryl, Wev, WesternPA and many others post lots of good info. that can be dug up, even if your shovel is only a rusty spoon found in an abandoned dump! You could also look outside at, among others, silver salon forums (SMP) for discussions with simple keywords or strings. Of course, a frontal tip looks more fashionable and tended to render the rear tip as an archaic design. Specific engraving practices, needing a surface for monogramming, might have affected the choice of design along with localized reasons of presentation in settings. What's an acceptable practice in one place might go against the grain in another.
In the case of the Platt firms, I suspect it will take a number of seen samples to tell if they flipped their spoons at a particular point or were carrying both styles concurrent to each other.
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:58 pm
by Traintime
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:38 am
by Traintime
Some linked notes on George Wood Platt (earlier) and George Washington Platt (later) and relatives, marriages,etc. :
http://www.potterama.net/private/Genealogy/d18.htm
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:25 pm
by Traintime
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 11:00 pm
by Traintime
WEV’s accounting of the order of Platt marks and family links (the alleged George “Washington” Platt working in that area at least as an assayer is not mentioned):
https://www.americansilversmiths.org/ma ... 117813.htm
Re: Platt & Brothers (All Four) New York
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:38 pm
by Aguest
::::: Does the weight of the 9-1/8" serving spoon seem a little too light by today's standards? ::::: I'm not sure what they were serving, exactly, but the weight of these large spoons seems a little too light, almost as if it would be too prone to bend. ::::: I've always wondered this about large coin silver spoons from this period, and I even have a few contemporaneous spoons from Central Europe (Prussia especially) that are 9 inches long but the weight just seems too light to be a proper serving spoon. ::::: Occasionally I will come across a really delicate coin silver spoon around 9 inches in length and I always think that the weight is just too light for proper serving of heavy foodstuffs over and over again :::::