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What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:36 am
by amena
Hello everyone
I found this bowl which I think is German or neighbors, because of the number 13. It also bears a mark used in the Kingdom of Sardinia between 1824 and 1872 on silver items coming from abroad.
![Image](https://i.postimg.cc/HrQTZd6V/zanzibar.jpg)
What I would like to know is what exactly this object was for.
it's too big to be a sugar bowl and too small to be a tureen.
Best
Amena
Re: What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:07 am
by AG2012
Hi,
A sugar bowl and cover (lidded).
Regards
Re: What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:09 am
by amena
A very big sugar bowl ! The presentoir dish has a diameter of 19 cm !!
Re: What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:55 pm
by JayT
My vote also goes to a sugar bowl. Tea services were quite large and imposing at the time, so this would not have been out of proportion to the rest of the pieces. If the interior is gilt, then a compote for fruit, or a jam dish could be a possibility.
Re: What is this?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:57 am
by amena
Well, I take note and, until proven otherwise, I will consider it a sugar bowl, although I have not found similar examples on the web.
The whole object was gilded once, inside and outside; today the gilding is worn out in many parts.
Thank you all
Amena
Re: What is this?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:10 pm
by huszas76
Dear Amena!
I know, that the original question is not about the maker, but maybe could be interesting too.
It's Schwabisch Gmünd, Dominik Kött.
Best regards!
Krisztián
Re: What is this?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:15 am
by amena
Hi Krisztián
I am stunned.
I hadn't even asked who the silversmith could be, because I thought it was impossible to find it with just the initials.
Thank you so much, it's very interesting news.
Perhaps you also know in what years he worked?
Regards
Amena
Re: What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:19 am
by huszas76
Dominikus Kött mentioned in 1855.
Source: DAs Gmünder Schmuckhandwerk bis zum beginn des XIX. jahrhunderts. p: 85
Best regards!
Krisztián
Re: What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:53 am
by Qrt.S
Interessant, aber warum gibt es keine Beschauzeichen, nur eine Herstellermarke?
Fragt Qrt.S
Re: What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:36 am
by amena
Thanks Krisztián for details.
As I said in the initial post, the sugar bowl also has a mark used in the Kingdom of Sardinia for objects coming from abroad.
Could it be that this bowl was produced for the Italian market and therefore lacking German hallmark ??
Best
Amena
Re: What is this?
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:00 pm
by huszas76
Dear amena!
A met this mark a lot of time in Hungary, so probably they worked a lot for export not only Austria-Hungary, but for Italy too.
Or some other regions too.
Best regards!
Krisztián
Re: What is this?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:19 am
by Italiansilver
Could be a "tazza da puerpera"?
Re: What is this?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:50 am
by amena
Your hypothesis is very convincing.
There are many similar examples on the Internet, especially Piedmontese.
I'd say you hit the target.
Thanks
Amena
Re: What is this?
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:57 am
by Italiansilver
Is one of my favourites silver (and not only) item.
Pretty rare.
Not ever easy to distinguish it from a big sugar cup with plate.
Easier if it is made in porcelain (very very rare).